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mcadam1121  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well its been awhile since ive updated you guys
but i guess there really isnt that much to update you on

i finally got my new transaxle put in

i finally got my hands on a cherry picker so today and dropped my engine in to see how it fits

i discovered that im goin to have to either cut the cross member for the front suspension or im goin to have to cut up the the oil pan
id really rather do some surgery on my oil pan but the oil sump is in the middle of the pan so id have to try to move the sump toward the rear

idk what im goin to do yet ill have to figure it out next weekend
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep us updated!

how soon until its release?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when will it be released
thats a good question wish i knew
i only get to wrk on it two days a week so it i dnt get much done
im hopin itll be done for the summer but i still got a lot of wrk to do still
i still got to figure out what to do about the oil pan and or the crossmember
i got to make the motor mounts and get my pulleys figured out
and get my cooling figured out
and then the real big job the wiring
which is goin to be a biatch
and then ill have to figure out were the hell my intake is goin to go
and then ill have to relocate the battery
and im sure theres tons of other shit i need to figure out

but im hoping for summer
lets cross our fingers
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well didnt get much done this weekend but i did get to sit the engine in the car

i found that im goin to have to notch my cross member and move my rack down
thats along with chopin my oil pan

but it looks like the engine will sit in there nicely

had to give the cherry picker back to its owner so didn't get much done

hopefully i can get it back soon
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcadam1121 wrote:
well didnt get much done this weekend but i did get to sit the engine in the car

i found that im goin to have to notch my cross member and move my rack down
thats along with chopin my oil pan



Been a few years for me moding the L-67's but.......

You might try a pan from a V6 F body, I think it is a different sump pan. Guess you would also need the pump pickup.
Might get the exhaust manifolds also.

FWIW the F body automatic will work with the L-67, even "plug in" and will work with the L 67 PCM.

There is a Aussi blower adapter that will turn the intake about 90 deg, but last time I checked they were $$$ (the L-67 is used RWD there).

The PCM (computer) will be the hard part of your swap- but there are great programmers available now . While this engine is very strong, a bad tune will kill it VERY quick.

IIRC a stock L-67 will put out 190 whp and 280 wftlbs. Mine with minor mods did 230 and 360. (intake, exhaust and 3.5" pulley)
The factory intake is the big killer 15- 20 whp.

David
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you mean by intake
like the air filter and piping
or the actual intake manifold
if its the filter and tubing thats not a prob
but if its the intake manifold what did you do to make it better
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i finally got my motor stuck in the car
it looked rite at home in the engine bay

so far ive cut my stock 3800 oil pan and my buddy is welding it up
i had to cut about a 1.25 inch notch out of the cross member between the mounts for the rack

ive also found out that my factory brakes arent goin to work
theres not enough room for the booster

does anyone have an idea for what to do for brakes
im thinkin ill just have to convert to manual brakes
im thinkin about takin a master cylinder from a 3/4 ton chevy pickup
i figure that will have push enough fluid to stop 3038 lb car

im still goin to have to cut fire wall for the throtle body
its goin to be a wear a coat and roll down the window car(no heater no ac)

ive found that the passenger side motor mount is goin to be a breeze
the drivers side is goin to be a bitch and a half cause the steering connects to the rack rite were my engine needs to bolt to the cross member

ive got a question about the motor mounts
should i have them connect them to the body or the crossmember
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcadam1121 wrote:
well i finally got my motor stuck in the car
it looked rite at home in the engine bay

so far ive cut my stock 3800 oil pan and my buddy is welding it up
i had to cut about a 1.25 inch notch out of the cross member between the mounts for the rack

ive also found out that my factory brakes arent goin to work
theres not enough room for the booster

does anyone have an idea for what to do for brakes
im thinkin ill just have to convert to manual brakes
im thinkin about takin a master cylinder from a 3/4 ton chevy pickup
i figure that will have push enough fluid to stop 3038 lb car

im still goin to have to cut fire wall for the throtle body
its goin to be a wear a coat and roll down the window car(no heater no ac)

ive found that the passenger side motor mount is goin to be a breeze
the drivers side is goin to be a bitch and a half cause the steering connects to the rack rite were my engine needs to bolt to the cross member

ive got a question about the motor mounts
should i have them connect them to the body or the crossmember


I have manual brakes - I used the 944 brakes that stop the car really good! They positioned the brake pedal pivot differently so the brakes still work excellent!
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try this:

http://www.porschehybrids.com/gallery/album29

It doesn't take any more space than the master cylinder and looks factory.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


this is it in there
it fits pretty well just sittin in there
i need to make motor mounts still
but rite there its all bolted up to the bell housing and torque tube
i need to massage the fire wall some on driver side so the the valve cover wont rub

well thats what she looks like for now
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im planning on getting the computer flashed and the wiring harness sent in to be rewired this week
prolly get it sent in friday
it be round 650-700 for this work to be done
thats cheaper then i had figured before wich is good
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realize you were using the supercharged v6. Nice!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hell yea man
go big or go home
well i guess i could of gone bigger with a v8
but if figure this is big enough for me
i can get some kick ass power out of this motor so its all good
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great conversion, I was thinking of doing this to a 944. What is the hood clearance like?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You better find a hood scoop that's what hood clearance is like. The altenator supercharger and the coil packs stick up past the hood
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