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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:09 am Post subject: |
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They are universal. Not designed for a particular car.
Order them by part number from Summit, Jegs, etc.
Or buy the entire Spec944 matched Koni front and rear setup from Ground-Control which can include adjustable camber plates and an integrated strut tower brace. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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friggin
Joined: 30 Jul 2015 Posts: 39 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:00 am Post subject: |
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[quote="fiat22turbo"]They are universal. Not designed for a particular car.
Order them by part number from Summit, Jegs, etc.
I have looked on both of those websites and they both have told me they are discontinued?
Or buy the entire Spec944 matched Koni front and rear setup from Ground-Control which can include adjustable camber plates and an integrated strut tower brace.
Do you have a link? And will the kit I posted not work? _________________ 1979 924 stocker soon to be autocross beast |
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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friggin
Joined: 30 Jul 2015 Posts: 39 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Would it hurt to use the poly mounted shock? Or is there something special about the bearing style? Sorry for all the questions like I said I just bought my car. _________________ 1979 924 stocker soon to be autocross beast |
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friggin
Joined: 30 Jul 2015 Posts: 39 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Another question what coils would work with that shock for the rear? _________________ 1979 924 stocker soon to be autocross beast |
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:01 am Post subject: |
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The bearing is solid mount, the poly introduces some additional spring rate into the solution.
I'd go with the bearing mount on a pure race car. It will be noisy and the bearing will wear out and need to be replaced every so often. Same with the adjustable camber plates for the front end.
For a street car that is raced occasionally, then the polyurethane ones might be a better compromise.
I'd not use coil springs In the rear and up the size of the torsion bars and keep the center of gravity lower. Just my opinion.
I'll let the more experienced folks talk spring rate though as there is a lot of theory behind it that ultimately requires data on your car (corner weights) and driving style to start to choose them.
You could also go with Ground-Control's solution:
http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/category.php/CA=218
And ask them about spring rates and shock valving. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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friggin
Joined: 30 Jul 2015 Posts: 39 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I'm really wanting could all around due to the adjustability of them. _________________ 1979 924 stocker soon to be autocross beast |
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friggin
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friggin
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what the Bilstein V36.0059 strut was replaced with? _________________ 1979 924 stocker soon to be autocross beast |
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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friggin
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Alright guys today is the big day! Only problem is I'm not sure how to get rid of the torsion bars 😬 any help would be awesome! _________________ 1979 924 stocker soon to be autocross beast |
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:35 am Post subject: |
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friggin wrote: | Alright guys today is the big day! Only problem is I'm not sure how to get rid of the torsion bars 😬 any help would be awesome! |
Leave em. Replace with 26 or 28's and enjoy a slightly lower CoG.
If you still need more spring rate, add coil springs to the shocks, but you'll not need as much spring rate
To properly delete them requires special bushings from elephant racing. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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MikeJinCO
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 1228 Location: Maysville, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Fiat 2 Turbo's Bilsteins are about $400 each. They also make a B8 model for lowered suspensions for a 1980 VW Golf/Rabbit #34-184530 that is revalveable and only cost $140 on Amazon right now. Any comments on them? _________________ Mike
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MikeJinCO
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 1228 Location: Maysville, Colorado
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Apparently the B8's are valved the same as the normal HD's available which are B6's. The are cut off 15mm shorter. _________________ Mike
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Brockoli
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 621 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | The main PITA is that these are 1/2" rod end mounted, not 12mm (as our stock shocks are). What we've done on our racecars (I'm actually running Bilsteins in the back, but same mounting) is to drill out the mounting spots to 1/2" and use 1/2" Grade 8 bolts. This requires a heavy-duty drill up top, as you're milling through a long bushing; it will eat any puny cordless drill.
You also have to make up spacers to locate the shocks centered in the mounting spot; the 1/2" rod ends are much narrower than the bushings on a stock shock. So what is the easiest is to get 1/2" ID pipe or tubing, and cut lengths as needed to fill the gap.
Alternately, if you have access to a machine shop and the time and inclination, you can have the shop machine spacers that will fill the gap and also allow you to use the original 12mm shock bolts. |
Just to clarify, what spacer can be made to allow the 12mm bolts to still be used? If a sleeve was made to slide over the 12mm bolt to "take up the slack" from the 1/2" hole in the shocks wouldnt it have a very thin wall (0.375mm wall thickness)?
I am thinking about buying the rear coilovers but dont want to drill out the stock mounting holes for the rear shocks _________________ '80 924 M471,Wideband O2, Full coilover susp,23/19 sways,Bilstiens,KLA Strut Brace,Roll Bar,Test Pipe,BBS RS, Willwood BBK
25% of a '87 944 Chumpcar http://straightpipe.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=2454
'79 924 Sebring Edition(Sitting) |
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