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jopather

Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 58 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: tie down spot |
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Hey guys - I have a favor to ask:
I recently shipped my car from Iowa to CA and it got here and had broken loose and rolled into the car behind it. I'm pretty happy about that.
Anyways, the company's claiming that my car failed and that's why it came loose - meaning something on my car broke and so the chains came loose. I looked under the car and it looks like the place he hooked the chain to just tore loose. My question is where are you supposed to tie a 924 down? I think the trucker hooked into the holes in the sheet metal under the doors, about a third of the way back along the door...
I don't know a good way to describe the area - it's like a little donut molded into the sheet metal bottom pan. Is that really where he should have hooked onto the car? One side is competely torn back and it sure seems like that's all that could have done it...
If I can get them to admit they tied it down wrong, they'll pay to fix the rear end, so any help would be great.
Thanks! _________________ 1978 924
My car - a hole in my driveway where all my paychecks go... |
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Min

Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 2368 Location: Vernon, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Why would they tie it down by hooking into a peice of sheet metal instead of something sturdy like the suspension?
Min _________________ Custom means it didn't come from a box.
1980 n/a with EDIS and Megasquirt II Injection. 7 different colors and counting. |
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scottc
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 159 Location: Manilva, Malaga, Spain
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| or the wheels or the tow hook ??? |
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jopather

Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 58 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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My question exactly - needless to say I'm pretty pissed. When I told the guy at the company that he should have used the suspension, his response was "well, the suspension could have bent".
Um.... yeah, good point, the sheet metal probably IS stronger.
Gee whiz. _________________ 1978 924
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9064 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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What a shithead. Those spots are only suitable for holding the car up. The tie-down and towing hooks are up by the bumper. I ALWAYS use these to tie my cars down when towing (on my trailer). _________________ Vaughan Scott
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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on the trailer the car must be held down with cables and hinghes atatched on the WHEELS ! nothing else. thats standard. if the guy did otherwise you can attack the company in court and claim that they are incompetents.
look here:
Shot
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT ! _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9064 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Not great detail, but does point out my front attachment:
 _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I have had to get towed recently and they strapped the wheels down to fix the car.
Before this I have seen them chain the suspension or crossmember or diff housing.
However this can damage brake and fuel lines. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9064 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I do grab the rear suspension, 'round the end of the torsion bars, when towing - had to look at the pics to remind me... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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As has been said , what a dickhead! Thats the jacking up spot.
You must realize that it doesnt take much intelligence to drive a truck and thats before their brains are screwed up from too much amphetimine or crack.
If you have insurance theres a good chance of getting an assessors report without making a claim. Failing that, most auto associations/ clubs will provide a tech report for a reasonable fee. That should be sufficient for any judge to find in your favour if the mere promise of litigation doesn`t get the desired results. A lever for negotiation at the very least. I got pissed off just reading this.
BTW, the rear tow hook is just welded to a piece of 1mm sheetmetal which is spotted to another equally thin, without any reinforcement. Found out when this was ripped after a towie hooked the tiedown here for a 10 mile trip to the paint shop.
Good luck
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jopather

Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 58 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: thanks |
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Thanks guys - I talked to the trucking company today and they asked for pictures, a quote for repair, and proof that he'd tied it down incorrectly. I think I have some now
Appreciate it - once I get this sorted out I've got an electrical problem again and I'll be bothering you all one more time.
I love this board. _________________ 1978 924
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Nobbi
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 1396 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Vaughn,
check the other car on your pic, thats what i think is the best way.Tie down straps through the wheels.
It takes more time but it will pay off some day.......
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crunchie 57

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 117 Location: Brisbane Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I run a part time vehicle relocation business. And the only way I ever tie down a car is by the wheels, (straps over the wheel with a double ended D strap across the outside of the wheel) all 4 wheels. This holds the vehicle in place, but allows the suspension to move, thus absorbing the shocks and bumps of the road. With some vehicles weighing over 2 tones this can be quite a substantial force. I have seen many cars wrecked over the years by tow truck guys who don’t know or just don’t care. _________________ 78 924 N/A with 944 body kit (love this car)
79 924 NA - track car
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