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[dwak]

Leon,
Brabham supposedly won a F1 title using a Rover/Buick based V8 (according to Lanocha Racing) and a stock 924NA doing the 1/4 mile in 7 or 8 seconds sounds wacky to me. More like 7 minutes.

[larso]

Uh, first of all, I don't have much trust in Adie any more.

At one point she/he/transvestite is saying "quarter mile is in the high 10s now" over on the rennlist, and now she/he/transvestite on that site says 12.8

2.8 seconds 0-60....hmmm.....uh, no.

I also heard a woman say that a K and N cured her car from blowing oil...not being sexist here.

Canada is only cool in places other than toronto. THere are less mugs, you can actaully go out at night without having a gun in your pocket to steer off bad guys (there are still crimes here, just less people=less offspring=less chance of mentally ill people)

What sucks is that there is not any car interest here except for Montreal, no tracks at all, just 1 drag strip where i live.

I would have to say the worst place in canada is saskatchewan, and toronto.

[larso]

WHy go with the 924? just buy a TR7 and put a tr8 in it....the tr7 is the same shell as the tr8, just upgrade suspension...what's wrong with a tr7.

This rover engine is a 3.5 litre, some of you are missing that. A small block v-8 is like a ferrari engine, it isn't like a vette engine. Thats what i think is most important.

WHy bother having 8 cyls with 5 litres or 8 litres, 3.5 is plenty.

why bother having a 3 litre 4 cylinder...

You all keep saying "the 951 engine is the best way to go".

Turbos are out, the new vettes beat 911 turbos, sorry but i think small v-8s are the way to the future of fast light handling sports *ROAD* cars, not turbos.
Ferraris have been making small v-12s and v-8s since they started out!
We are talking about ROAD cars here guys, who wants to press the throttle down at an intersection and wait ten seconds for boost to kick in? race cars are different, no stop and go involved.


[ This Message was edited by: larso on 2001-09-08 15:47 ]

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[leon]

Thats right Jon. I reckon you should read this page as this guy is a rover v8 nut.http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Peter_Beech/TVR/engspec.htm , some people are paying up to 45000 pounds english for filthy 300+ hp rover v8's . I've had two rover v8.s and they have thier own idiosynchronicities. They get fuel delivery problems in the aussie heat. The 1978 Range Rover V8 seemed heaps more reliable for me than either the 3500mkII or my inlaws SDI.
In my humble experience an overhead cam motor shits on a pushrod motor cast or alloy. Here in australia a suprising number of companies retail chevy v6 and v8 conversion kits for Rangies which perhaps suggest?
A while ago I told the old discussion board about a local 924 conversion that has a 4cyl VW water cooled twin cam rated at 215 hp out of a golf gti . It cost him about 4000 AU ie $2000 US to do the whole thing. The motor cost about $1k US and the conversion $1k US. The weight was approx same and the balance of the car is perfect.


[ This Message was edited by: leon on 2001-09-09 09:18 ]

[larso]

Well I actaully think foing from 110 HP to 300 is just too much Jon, that's where you really have to start gettign pissed off, torque tubes breaking, replacing your 15 inch tires every month, suspension cracking in half, and transmission breaking down every month. You would have to fit a corvette tranny in the car, or a 928 tranny.

With a 3.5 litre, you get more than the power of the 931, and more throttle response...the 931 has good power, so the 3.5 will have garunteed good power PLus some, since it's lowest rating is 150HP, no extra weight added. Chevies produce 300 HP, yah...but the weight,

and yah turbos ARE great for Cheapness, but again like you said if we bought a porsche we should have money to play with.

Power power power just cuz a vette can give you 300HP, how useable is it? who needs 300 Rear wheel HP on a road car anywho?

[Mark CSC]

Hey guys I never said Adie was a bloke I just thought he/she was. He/she never said anything to confirm their sexuality!

[924 turbo]

[dwak]

My oh my, what a raw nerve this thread has exposed!
Gender issues, economic issues, reliability vs lack of.....and on and on.
Well keep it coming and we may find a solution to what I think is the perfect car's Achilles heel.
I still think Adie is a guy.

[Rick MacLaren]

Maybe, Dwak, Adie is having us on?

[pst]

Rick Mac Laren, sorry for the delay in answering but I have been trying to go on vacation to Brazil. Unfortionately Tuesday's happinings have put a damper on that. Anyway, I never said anything about how much HP the 327 had. However, Chevy engines and parts a very readilly available and can be had very cheap if you look hard enough. I do a lot of trades. The 327 that I used ran reasonably well and I put it together for (just guessing because I didn't keep track) about $400. I bought rebuild parts and a cam and kit mail order and used a good block i had; a good 307 crank; a set of used 327/350 pistons; a set of used 1.94 open chamber heads (truck heads); corvette rams horn exh. manifolds that were given to me when a friend put headers on his Vette; I traded some other parts for a aluminum intake and carb. The car ran good and was fast, but I never went to the track or got any times. It did however make the car very fast. You don't necessarilly need a new LT1 any older small block will do just fine. The other thing to remember is that horsepower is not horespower. You need to look at the torque curve to get an idea as to how any vehicle will run. Also what you will use it for. I personally enjoy the feeling of the acceleration. I don't care if I will be able to beat anyone else because there will always be someone with more money and concequently more power.
I buy my steel and aluminum from a scrap yard for almost nothing so the parts that I fabricated were very cheap. It all depends on how and where you obtain your parts and supplies.
Unfortionately I do not have any pictures of the car as I needed to sell it as soon as it was finished. (I was getting devorced at the time) I haven't seen the car since.

[larso]

I think the whole idea of modifying street cars is stupid, cuz it's no fun to drive a fast car around town (where can you go arond corners fast properly? where can you in straight lines without a cop near by?)

So I think all this is a waste of time unless you are tracking the car, but then how many v-8 porsches are out on the track is what I would like to know, like for example the rover 8 924s, why don't they have them on track, do they? Or is it some restriction problem that no race car can have a foreign engine in it?

Vaughan here is bassackwards, he's got a underpowerd 924 on track, and here all these street people are trying to get 300 HP monstor 924s, jeez.

[AppleBit]

I think Scott has the right track with his car on the track.

Yes- you don't see many modified cars on race courses. This is because the classing issues would have to require you to really spend money to make your car competitive.

I think modified cars are really kewl and give a different character and flavor to a car.

I want to keep a Porsche 4 cyl in my car. I just love to blow them away, then they ask how much power my V8 has... then I tell 'um it's a 4 cyl first... they don't believe me- so I open the hood as I tell them it's 2 liters...

I dunno why, but I always get wierd looks and disbelievement...

really funny

- Jon


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[Faust]

OK, this thread got me thinking. So, I called around and located a Rover SD1 motor for $300.00. Is there actually a kit available? Someone mentioned converting a TR7 to a TR8. Yes, it is easy. All you need is a TR8 crossmemer for the mounts. These are available from England. About 600USD.

[dwak]

Subject:
Re: 924 conversion
Date:
Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:52:55 -0000
From:
"Adie the Throp"
To:

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The rover weighs in at 35 pounds lighter than the stock 924 engine, now your
smiling, you need to loose the serve as it is in the way, and the rear axle
and torque tube need to be 944 as the 924 is not strong enough, the 924 S is
the same as the 944 and the 924 turbo, the splines are also the same as
rover, you need to fabricate a plate to mate the 944 belhousing to the rover
(924 will not fit) and you also need a 944 radiator and fill up tank. An
eletric fan and an eletric waterpump, ( I sell all of these components) the
engine mounts are fabricated from scratch as I'm to lazy to mess around with
the originals. Unfortunatly I am in England but I am looking to go to Canada
soon, your other problem will be carb and manifiold but I have many ways of
overcoming this. Let me know if I can be of assistance.
Adie http:/www.amt.racing@talk21.com

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