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[ESC944]

Alrighty - over under my latest toy thread the discussion of a bolt on 937 style intercooler came up as well as general intercooler.

So the basic commentary was:

[Raceboy]

GTR style: front mount, direction: air enters IC from underside and IC outlet straight to the log-style inlet manifold. Very short plumbing.
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[ESC944]

YES CAN DO THAT AS WELL

[sequential]

the most feasible is the CGT style as it will bolt right in and require the least amount of modification to work . it will also be the least expensive
because of the core size ( a plus here ) at .8 bar the intercooler will be effective possible to 1 bar and with a new style bar and plate cooler it will work for most here .
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[hausbrauen]

How about a top mount air to water that is designed to replicate the CGT but does not require a hood scoop?
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[wannaBgroupB]

Top-mount air to air....big honkin' hood scoops are sexy.

[Khal]

[flosho]

I would vote but I really can't decide on which one I would most want.

Just going over how I feel about everything here.

Topmount:
Does it mach up right by the NACA duct or will we have to purchase a 924/944 hood and cut that up? Or exactly how would the scoop work, I'm not opposed to using the top mount air to air, as it would be real reasonable.

However, what kind of heat soak issues would we suffer in daily driving traffic. It would be sitting right over the exhaust manifold. This would keep plumbing to a minimum and still be efficient, I mean STi's use a top mount and are makin' 300hp so that should be sufficient for most of us..

air/water
This setup is kinda what I'm thinking is like Kenodog's air/water set up. The only draw back is that this would be much more money, however we can keep our stock hoods and stock intake manifolds.

Everyone says this setup is more of a drag racing style set up, not really to be used as a daily driver. I don't daily drive my car but I drive it whenever I can and when its nice out so I wouldn't want this setup if its not suitable for normal driving.

front mount:
Longer pipes, higher engine temps because the front of our cars aren't exactly good for allowing a front mount, this would probably be more cost efficient than air/water but would induce some lag into our powerband..

Then again if we use a log style manifold it isn't going to be any less expensive then an air/water setup

Nose style front mount:
I think the air flow isn't going to be great enough and there isn't enough room to put a good sized intercooler in the nose.. (then again I haven't looked at my car in 4 months... so there could be more room in there than I remember...)

I think an air/water top mount is unreasable becuase it would be less of a head ache to do an CGT top mount instead... same with an air/water nose mount, running something similar to kenodog's setup would allow for a greater core and better cooling..

I guess my vote goes for front mount or carrera gt top mount.. otherwise an air/water in the battery tray.. one of those three..

Another thing that you could think about is just a simple alcohal/water injection system w/o an intercooler... or even on a top mount or front mount with water injection..

Oh..is church over now?
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[CBass]

I think we have two winners.

Make a Carrera GT style intercooler that most people can bolt on their car without having to take off their badge panel and modify the bracing(951 style). For engines running at lower boost levels, .5-1.0 bar.

Make a large front mount with it's own intake manifold. The most efficient way, for engines running 1.0+ bar.
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[sequential]

Hey narrow down the poll options , the masses will always buy black , until you give them a choice.
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928 gts prototype
baby blue engine block
steam in 1,2,3,4 sometimes
cold star issues while on stands
112 whp with new 4 valve head and MIS 2

[ESC944]

Well I dont think you can reduce the poll options.

Alright so I am back - long day.

Church - then ran into some of the Ford guys, who are part of the local club and go to my church - they are all worked up about my v6 kit and the kit I am carrying that converts the 99-04 stang into a more 06 GT looking ride. That turned into a tune session and BBQ - we grilled some burgers and dogs, kids played on the slip and slide and we upgrade the XR7 - new intercooler - new injectors, MAFTuner kit, Chip, tweaking - was making 600HP last dyno - 351 twin turbo. Any who - long day, good times.

Sorry About the long delay.

So lets do some pics shall we?

[ESC944]

Well one way to go about it for the DIY - convert something - like air to water:







Front Mount -

[ESC944]

[ESC944]

TOP MOUNT

[81turbo]

That Ford top-mount will not clear the hood on the 931. I have tried to mock up a fitting and it is about and inch or so too tall. It is a shame that is a very nice core!