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Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

would an Audi 5000CS fit into a 924 they have the same bell house bolt patteren, what about length and hight cleanence and tilting the motor?

moone924 · Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 867 Location: Douglas Wyoming

The engine it's self will fit..... but who knows about the exhaust manifold. With the intake manifold, I don't know for sure but one from a '84 or '85 Turbo would be the best to try as the throttle body faces towards the front of the car.

If you're going to do a conversion, the only easy way to get it done is converting to EFI.
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I don't remember what car you have, but why not sell and get a 924 Turbo, or put a turbo motor in your car.
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Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

i have a 1977 924 would the motor fit with out tilting

moone924 · Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 867 Location: Douglas Wyoming

without tilting ?
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Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

the audi 100 sits at a 45 degree angle to the passanger side. the 5000cs sits at a 90 degree angle. so would the 5000cs fit in with or with out tilting it.

what about clearance from the pullies to the raditor

moone924 · Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 867 Location: Douglas Wyoming

you're mixing things...
Audi 100/200/5000 are the same cars... same engine config plus or minus turbo, and quattro/non-quattro...... (some 200's did have the 20v turbo though which shares the same basic block as the others.)

you might be thinking of the later 100/A6
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moone924 · Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 867 Location: Douglas Wyoming

Come to think of it the 100/A6 has a 90 degree V6.....
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Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

the Audi 100 is a 100hp 2.0L four cyclinder thats what is in the 924 stock motor and it sits tilted to the passange side. now every Audi 5000CS that i've seen ( 5 cyclender 2.22L turbo up to 325 hp) sits up right almost a 90 degree

Paul · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject:

Is this it?

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Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

i think so, yea i think that is it. would i have to move the radiator off to the side like that or would that motor fit with the everythingstill in place

Paul · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:

It's only a SWAG, but the problem will probably be the lack of space for that intake manifold against the shock tower. Notice that it is mounted in front of the shock tower in the Audi, but it won't be in the 924.
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White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.

moone924 · Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 867 Location: Douglas Wyoming

Keaton.... .you're thinking of the OLD OLD Audi 100.... like pre 1981....

which is a 5000 in the USA..... Now a 5000cs is a 200 in europe

and the engines dont face straight up that lean to the side too.
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Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

ok what American Audi is in the picture above. what years had EFI, if any. i'm looking for a 5 cyclinder with a turbo that shares the same bell house bolt patteren as the stock motor in the 924. from what i have read the American is good for 325 HP at the fly wheel(on stock turbo and valve train). how much clearence would be left next to the shock tower, if i had to cut the inside passanger fender well and the shock tower, then welded a pannel inplace... 1 whould there be issues with tire clearence 2. what about strength in the tower after cutting and welding and after adding stress bar at the top?

Keaton · Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202

ok so after googling for a couple hours i think i found what i need/want an 1991 Audi 200...............turbocharged dohc, 4-valves per cylinder cross-flow alluminum head, inline 5 cylinder, 2226 cc displacement, cast iron block, mounted longitudinally.Bore x stroke: 81.0x86.4 mm (3.19x3.40 inch) Compression ratio: 9.3:1 Horsepower (SAE) 217 bhp @ 5700, torque 228 lb-ft @ 1950 rpm (through 4300 rpm, where the horsepower curve soars past torque) Redline at 7000 rpm KKK k24 turbocharger, water cooled. Bosch Motronic electronic multi-port injection, dual knock sensors, computer control of timing and boost pressure. Forged crankshaft, six main bearings, forged pistons (all cooled by oil jets at the bottom of each cylinder bore) Intercooler (single pass, larger than previous models) Maximum boost pressure of 1.8 bar (11.8 psi boost) Compressor bypass valve to keep turbo spooled up between shifts

http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/200-specs.html

i need some input on what i have found

Belgian924t · Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Posts: 104 Location: Belgium

Hello,

I think it is more interesting to buy a real 924 turbo, not alone for the engine but also for the suspension, gearbox and originality.
The 5 cylinder Audi engine, and especially the 20-valve, will be a real pain to put in the 924. You also have to change the oilpan, the cooling, in case of the turbo place the intercooler, and all other small things.

Greetz..
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