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Peter_in_AU  



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2001 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone is or knows a real html guru I'd love to find out what's causing this page to stuff-up. It's driving me nuts.

If you look at http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?topic=231&forum=7&start=15&23 with microsoft Internet Explorer it displays correctly. If you look at it using a Netscape browser all the text below the standard board header comes out as little squares.

It doesn't happen anywhere else on the board.

If you are, or know of someone who is, the kind of html guru who rejects FrontPage, DreamWeaver, Fusion etc and codes html with bare teeth using vi or notepad could you have a look at the page and tell me what's wrong.

Like I said, it's driving me nuts.
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teo  



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Location: Hungary, Europe

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried to take a look at the problem, but couldn't really find it.

Win98 - MSIE 5.0 : page is ok
Linux - Netscape 4.72 : page is ok
Win98 - Netscape 6.1 : page is ok

the Linux machine goes thru the proxy on the Win98 (ok,ok sounds weird ) , I don't know if there is any character conversion done by the proxy.

So, what's the config when the problem occurs?
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Peter_in_AU  



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2001 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so teo, does the page work for you with those configurations?

I'm getting the problem with Netscape 4.75 on NT4 but not with MSIE 5.5 on NT. Dwak has the problem with Netscape on Windoze ME (don't know which version of Netscape he's using). Smoothie gets the problem but I don't know what browser he's using.

I've just loaded the page up on my son's Win98 PC with Netscape 4.5 and the text is stuffed.

Also just tried it on Netscape 3.04 on a very old Mac Powerbook and it works correctly. Now you know why it's driving me nuts.

Would anyone else who is having a problem with this page please put your hand up and tell me which computer and browser you're using. If it's only me, dwak and smoothie I'll de-emphasize the problem and go back to worrying about my starter solenoid.

By The Way, a win98 proxy doesn't sound strange, just lazy (like you've got better things to do) :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Peter_in_AU on 2001-10-08 21:36 ]
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teo  



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes!

Finally did it!
I mean after installing
Netscape 4.08, 4.04, 4.6, 4.7
the 4.7 version shows the error. All the others are OK.

Now, I'm after that bug! (not the VW type )

Teo
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teo  



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhhh, strange!

Couldn't really find it, but got some hints...

1. Saved the code, tried to replace some stuff in it, page is Ok.
2. Next reload original, page is OK.
4. hmmm.
5. OK, cache.
6. Empty cache.
7. Step one, but replaced something else this time, page is Ok
8. see step 4. 6.
8a. step 7.-8. a few times.
9. cannot save the code anymore, it will not show up when "View Source"
10. step 4.

11. different approach
12. switch Character Set (View->Character Set) from Western (ISO-8859-1) to Unicode (UTF-7), page is Ok
13. switching it back-and-forth between the two, page is Ok-not Ok.

So, it's at least replayable, must be some kind of character set or encoding problem, and this explaines that when I saved the code in step 1,7 with notepad, it must have converted it, thus was it good for different tries.

The code looks good, couldn't really find anything, only this one:
When you have multiple pages you insert a line "Goto page 1 | 2", here at the beginning of the line some "-s missing, but thats only cosmetical.

Teo

Ps: if you save the code and email me, I can try to really find that ugly little bastard.
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Peter_in_AU  



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the help teo,

you're right, it was the character set encoding or, actually, one not being specified.

I added a content-type meta specifying charset=utf-8 and the problem went away. Well almost. The little ">>" characters in the path under the xray logo turned into little boxes. Changed the code to display those as "->" and that problem went away.

I've checked it on everything I've got lying around here and it works on everything I can lay my hands on.

Thanks again.
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teo  



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are welcome!

just trying to get some reputation after that infamous "appropriate discussions"...

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