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kye · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject:

I also have an '81 model (931) with the same brown/purple/red paint that you describe, and mine was originally a UK car too.
i'm pretty much 100% sure this is the factory colour.

here's some pics of it (in a brown mood, as you say, the light changes the colour quite a bit)

I looked in the engine bay but i can't find reference to the colour there, where would I find it?
the only plate in the engine bay that I can't rule out is a white one with E1 circled and E2 circled and some other numbers.
I can also give you a VIN if it's possible to look it up to find the factory colour code..

*kye gets all excited that he might actually be able to help with something!*

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CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

Umm, wasn't 1979 the last year the exposed gas cap was used? Posting the VIN won't tell you the paint code, but it will verify the car's model year. On LHD cars, the paint code sticker is in the engine compartment on the car's left side, up in the "tray" by the fuel filter, I'm not sure what changes there are under the hood on RHD cars. Your paint may not be original, or at least the rear may have been re-painted, as the "924 Turbo" sticker doesn't appear to be OEM. Also, what's with the small, round muffler/exhaust pipe? I could easily be wrong, but I was under the impression that all the 931's had the oval setup.

Here's a post that lists the paint codes by year.
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gwsg · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject:

Nice car Kye.

I also wondered about the exposed petrol cap. My 1980 Oz delivery has the covered cap but it has no side markers. I think the side markers were introduced here in 1981 but the petrol cap should have been long gone.

Curious.

Geoff
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Maxx · Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Eskilstuna, Sweden

CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

The side markers were introduced at different times depending on the market. I've got a euro '79 that had no side markers and was a German delivery. There are other's who also have '79 models but do have the markers. I can't recall if they were UK based, or perhaps from Sweden. There isn't one statement that's absolute about the introduction of the lights (other that all US spec cars have them).

Maxx · Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Eskilstuna, Sweden

Vince Ponz · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida

My 79 Euro did not have side markers but were put on when the car came here. All they did was drill a big and two small holes and put them on.
I removed them and I do not have any side markers on the car now. Same as KYEs car.
As for the gas cap mine is exposed.
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kye · Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 12:42 am Post subject:

thanks for the comments, but I think you guys are biased!

well, I had a look at those paint codes, but couldn't find anything in the engine bay that looked like that, except a silver sticker that has mostly peeled off and could have been anything (probably the sticker from someone that serviced it once, there are quite a few in there..)
i was thinking it is still the factory colour because the entire chassis is the same colour (not just the exposed bits) and the areas where the paint is chipped doesn't reveal another colour, so if it's been changed, it would have to have been stripped and the other paint removed..

I have two numbers, the one I suspect as being the VIN is: 4816933, and the one I suspect as being the chassis number is WP0Z93ZBN100596.
is that right?

the small/round exhaust pipe? no idea.. i'm just starting to learn about this whole thing myself!

as far as I know, there are no changes in the LHD and RHD versions.. I still have the battery on the left and the fuel filter on the right. I can take a pic if you want to compare

the car has a number of things that made me think it was an '81.. four wheel disc brakes being the main one, but perhaps mine was optioned up?
the seller was wrong about the mileage (the odo isn't working) so perhaps he was wrong about the year too?
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Smoothie · Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 12:55 am Post subject:

VIN and chassis number are one in the same and yours is the WP0ZZZ93ZBN10nnnn number. I don't know what the other number is. Where did you find it?

The VIN indicates an '81 924 turbo, Europe, ROW car

WP0 - world manufacturer code
ZZZ - filling code or VDS code for USA and Canada versions (my car has "AA0" here)
93 - vehicle type together with 12th digit (which is a "1", so type is 931)
Z - test code
B - model year (B=81, C=82, D=83, E=84, F=85)
N - place of production (N=Neckarsulm?)
1 - indicates vehicle type together with digits 7 and 8 (they are "93")
0 - code for body type and engine ("0" = Europe/ROW, "5" = USA/Canada/Japan)
nnnn - serial number
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kye · Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:45 am Post subject:

thanks for looking that up! at least I know it's the right year etc..

the other number was written up the side of the plate in the engine bay with the vin on it.. the plate also had some weights on it, I presume for cargo capacity and gross weight etc..
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CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

Verrry interesting... a VIN that indicates it's an 81 model, but an exposed fuel cap. Who else has got an '80 or '81 with the exposed cap? The VIN number on the plate should match the number stamped into the chassis just on top and in front of the right-side shock tower (or were later year chassis stamped on the firewall by the battery [LHD cars]?).

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kye · Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

my VIN was in the position B spot (along the top of the wall going up to the seal there) but the plate that had it was attached on the other side of the seal just in front of the fuel filter..
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iwantacarrera · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Ravenshead, England

Kye, mine is painted just like yours. Even the side decals are the same pattern/colour. Still hunting for further stickers/documentation but I have decided to stick with the colour when I respray the new panels.

The odd thing is that on the topic (linked to above) Cassis Red isn't listed anywhere. As we both have '81 models with this colour I wonder if it might have been renamed at some point.

Vince, yours is a '79 - do you have a paint code sticker in it anywhere?
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cleethorpes · Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:04 am Post subject:

cmxxxi is that your engine bay in the picture?

Bloody nice n' clean if it is, mine looks like it's been washed with tar in comparison.
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CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

Yep, that's my cleaned up baby.

Complete and freshly rebuilt, just put the hood (bonnet) back on this weekend. Broke a timing belt in late October is what made me undertake the work.

Click the photo for my photo gallery of the work

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'79 Eurospec 931