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Need some help for porting the intake port in 964
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kondzi  



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be nice to scan these in 3D and try to arrange one on the other in CAD software to see where the differences are. Unfortunately I don't have access to a 3D scanner and none anywhere nearby commercially available as I was checking. I don't want to send those though, being afraid I will lose my only mold I have
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want, you can send them to me, i'll scan them for you and send them back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morghen, maybe you can lend your input to this thought. Maybe he is missing the fin in the final cnc version because of the conversion from scan to a surface in the CAD software? The scan has such finite detail which then gets smoothed out when converting. Then, in a much smaller way, you have both the CNC software as well as the cnc itself 'smoothing' the tool path while following the surface within a specified tolerance

This is the issue I have been having myself as I convert the port from scan data to a surface.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Data conversion algorithms will always have an impact on actual values.
Generally i avoid using convertors, whatever i scan, i re-design myself by hand "under" the scanned surface. This gives me greater control over the resulting geometry but of course it takes a lot of time.
So if there is a mistake, i made it, not the software.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morghen wrote:
Data conversion algorithms will always have an impact on actual values.
Generally i avoid using convertors, whatever i scan, i re-design myself by hand "under" the scanned surface. This gives me greater control over the resulting geometry but of course it takes a lot of time.
So if there is a mistake, i made it, not the software.


Nice, I know how that goes!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ciprian, what I’m afraid is the courier losing the package
Currently I can live without the scan. I got the STP file though. But I only have a viewer. Can this step file be converted to something more useful?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it can.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys I discovered something nice today
I was resurfacing the heads on my lathe, and after that, cleaning the heads to prepare them for assembly in some time. As I was paying attention to get all that hair size aluminium leftovers removed, I discovered the seat, that was a 3-angle cut by factory, is no longer 3-angle seat. Now it's radius cut!
That could explain those few CFMs over my hand ported job results on flow bench, right?
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