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What makes a club sport a club sport?
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuck21401 wrote:
Carrera RSR wrote:






What happens if you pull the blue handle?


Passenger gets ejected
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hilarious

Actually you have the pic with the angled toward the driver gauges

Small update: The fasten seat belt indicator snapped right in. The cig lighter is fitted nice and tight but I really should have a better back side to lock it in proper

2 Gauges are in but I need to fit the heater controls. Looks pretty cool though.

Obviously all this is for test fit fun
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Juho  



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this something youre going release to print or something youre going to sell? i want it either way
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juho wrote:
Is this something youre going release to print or something youre going to sell? i want it either way


I am probably going to sell this one but it has to be decent of course. I'll let you know what I decide in the end. Not sure I want everyone to suffer through the whole process like I am.
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Juho  



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wish i had one to scan, what scanner you used?
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juho wrote:
wish i had one to scan, what scanner you used?


HP 3D Scan Pro S3 which is a Structured Light Scanner. This is why you see everything I do painted white or powdered white. It was originally designed by German University Students which turned it into a Business (David Scan) and had it was open source. You could make your own laser setup relatively cheap and dip your feet into the process. I loved it back then but they sold it to HP and I feel like HP has not done anything to support the product, nor continue its development since the take over. I drop my head in disgust at the big International Machine Tool Show in Chicago (IMTS) when I visit the HP booth and it isn't featured at all. What a wasted opportunity for HP. It has features and accuracy not seen in some products at 10x the cost (0.05mm). Calibration panels so you can calibrate for different size objects and the cameras are adjustable. Yes, its still real money if you buy everything I have. I am constantly looking though in adding another scanner but those will be even more of an investment. We shall see. I got a product demo for a laser scanner that was amazing. A grid of multiple laser lines shot at the object in really time. It was very cool

Just realize there is so much more than simply have the scanner. Its a start for sure. Here are some scans.

This is cool because there are picture features blended with the scan mesh. Here you see me starting to make some CAD features (the flange) from the scan.



Here is the turbo oil drain scanned



Here is the 6:10 Housing with my CAD work laid over each other



6:10 housing again


4:10 with exhaust flange development



more of the same



931 intake which I needed to develop the inlet pipe for the CS top mount inter-cooler from Ideola's Garage.



Engine Mount Bracket scans used to make the aluminum bracket





Exhaust manifold


...and finally the turbo mount which is the longest running project ever. You can see how poor the scan is at the o-ring but that was enough for me along with manual measurements to get what I needed. I did this one first with a laser with a micro controller sweeping it across the mount. Later with structured light. This one surprised me because it had complex angles. Wonder how they did it back then at Porsche

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im planning to 3d scan my car side using xbox kinect and make a fender flares on blender
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome... That's another good scanning setup and blender is great
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/JouKX4lxefA
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Fasteddie313  



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m liking that exhaust flange for a big down pipe..
Does it really need the complex matched outside curvature though? Might be better to just make the outside square if it’s not in the way of anything, for more even bolt clamping..

Sounds like a good project/upgrade either way if it can fit much bigger of a DP..
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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrera, you found the project my nephew told me was on the FB group when I showed him mine. Price is right for sure.

This is where I am at now with my test. Finally got a vent control panel out of a car to try and wish I had measured it beforehand. I have a bin somewhere with a couple panels and couldn't find it for two weeks. Then I couldn't find the right plastic pry tool to get the panel out without damage, got anxious, printed, and now need to adjust CAD around the panel...sigh. The location of the panel clips is perfect but the depth of the clip parts need adjusting.



Fasteddie, it doesn't need that strange bumped out part. I have yet to make one yet and they are being milled since thats the equipment I have access to currently. I am always learning and stainless was one of those things I thought I had mastered only to be bit hard blowing up tools. Just did a customer project in stainless that brought me up to speed simply because I had no choice. Milling stainless in some sections to 0.01mm tolerance...craziness. So happy its accepted and gone. Cool thing is I learned and will be making a flange or two this summer once cars out of their winter projects.

I did this NA Lightweight header flange years ago in stainless. Then I did it again a few years later, change parameters, and killed the tool. I was lost as to why it didn't work. Now I know what I did wrong so I can make the turbo exhaust flange

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jacobroufa  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All these scans and designs... Mike, I can't wait til you open your store to orders! I will be looking forward to the ejector seat kit.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacobroufa wrote:
All these scans and designs... Mike, I can't wait til you open your store to orders! I will be looking forward to the ejector seat kit.


Thanks! Ejector kit development, got it

The partial front part of console mocked in place. I am realizing my scan to CAD of the center console is exactly that and it differs from the Museum GTS version. Still working on it since the original looks a bit more organic. Trying to figure out the best way to hang it (its propped up here). There are two really nice brackets behind the console where m4 or m5 clip nuts could go and maybe two long screws, or more likely threaded rod, from a port below and behind the vent controls. I really don't want to see these two mount screws. CAD is now adjusted for the control panel dimensions but not in this pic. Also realized larger gauges, like certain VDO boost gauges for example are longer and hit the vent ducting above. It wasn't level for a while and I finally pulled the gauge out of the left opening and all was good.



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morghen  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats so cool!
I would run it like it is now simply because I like to see yesterday's designs revived with today's technology.

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Mike9311  



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morghen, thanks, I am going to stay close to stock as you suggested. I spend way too much time playing around when I need to get other things done

I am planning on a one shot print with SLA this time for another test but that opened another can of worms with keeping it lightweight. Its back to CAD creating a bunch of section views and some internal hollowing of the thicker sections. At least this test is one piece and maybe I can use it to put this interior back together

As far as light weighting goes it really isn't the console but all the gauges. They made it feel so heavy but its what makes the whole deal cool

For this summer I have a piece of carpet to 'fool the authorities' for a time over the center tunnel. Carpet ends after the front seats anyway
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