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924 turbo 177hp (1981) oil pump rebuild

 
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florent78  



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:11 am    Post subject: 924 turbo 177hp (1981) oil pump rebuild Reply with quote

Hi

my oil pump is in bad condition, I need to change the 2 pinions inside (too much play)

I cannot get a new one

price for custom rebuild is really expensive


it seems that the oil pump coming from the:
VW LT 2.5 tdi share the same internals

so I can buy it and rebuild it

I would appreciate some advices or tips


thanks for your help
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it not worth sourcing another second hand/used pump that's not suffered the wear? They are the same in 2.0na and turbo. They rarely wear out unless exposed to poor oil + debris. I had 3 pumps to hand when rebuilding my engine. Only one of the 3 was slightly out of desired tolerance.
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florent78  



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not easy to find


really the 2.0 NA and the turbo oil pump are the same ?
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florent78  



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked on pics

they are different

from behind you can clearly see the plate and the number of screws is different
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All na and turbo engine blocks and oil pumps ARE the same part. Only pistons are different.

If you don't have a 924 used parts supplier in France/EU then try https://wooliesworkshop.com/ in UK
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florent78  



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks I asked them

but when I see the pics

the plate behind for the 924 turbo is 6 screws
the N/A is 3 screws

some there are some differences I think
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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asked who?? What pics?

Porsche PET parts catalogue shows the same oil pump parts number for both NA and turbo application - 046 115 105 A ........go check
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Ian89C4  



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. They are the same part. I used an oil pump from a naturally asperated parts bin on my 931 rebuild. No issues. Would be interestwd to see the picture of the different pump you found.

The blocks are the same as well between the na and turbo. The only difference on the blocks is the angle of the breather pipe. Yes they are different part numbers, but I've them side by side and there are no cast differences.

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