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Kenodog
Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 2651 Location: Vancouver,B.C.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:09 am Post subject: Same notorious green wire ? |
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Anyone every used the 928 shielded wire to fix their 931 distributor pick up ?
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Leigh _________________ 1979 Euro 931, Olive
1981 931, Sabine
1991 Ford Ranger XLT 4x4, Ricky
1996 Ford E-350 ex-FedEx Van
2014 Mazda CX-5 (Kinderwagon)
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RC
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2636 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:34 am Post subject: |
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No.
IMO though, it is a bloody expensive connector and length of average quality but colourful shielded cable!
It is really the connector that is needed. Recall chasing one many years ago now, to no avail. Could not find a source of new OE or aftermarket plugs. Looks like there are some alternate & marginally cheaper units now available. Shorter but could splice onto the existing cable.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Bosch-Ignition-Distributor-Wire-Green-Wire-930-602-907-01-/292161763926
The 928 & 930 plug also appears to be longer. Thake a look at the length of the male pins on the coil.
Here is the 928 pickup coil:
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/porsche,1980,928,4.5l+v8,1263350,ignition,distributor+pickup+coil,7176
Compare to 924 (NA) pick up coil:
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/porsche,1980,924,2.0l+l4,1263259,ignition,distributor+pickup+coil,7176
So ... back to your initial question... _________________ World`s quickest 924 2L slushbox
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8815 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Be advised, if you're looking to splice, that the original green wire is a coax cable... just to add to the complexity...
We replaced with twisted pair, about as good for shielding for EM interference... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Rock Auto FTW
Search for 93060290701 _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8815 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Rasta Monsta wrote: | Rock Auto FTW
Search for 93060290701 |
Wow!! $32.79 USD, Uro Parts... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Rasta Monsta wrote: | Rock Auto FTW
Search for 93060290701 |
Sorry if anyone relied on this. Not even close, I'm afraid. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:25 am Post subject: |
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924RACR wrote: | We replaced with twisted pair, about as good for shielding for EM interference... |
Where did you splice? Where did you obtain the twisted pair wire? Gauge? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8815 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:26 am Post subject: |
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My EE crew chief sourced the shielded twisted pair, maybe 20 ga or so...
Didn't splice; replaced the single connector with two spade terminals. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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MikeJinCO
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 1228 Location: Maysville, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:48 am Post subject: |
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I now have a many lifetimes supply of coax cable and now 98 crimp on connectors that are a very secure fit to the distributor pickup. To get the stuff I had to buy 30m cable and a box of 100 connectors. The connectors and 5 or so feet of cable could be fit in a mailing envelope. Splicing would be required at least on an NA due to the control box connector. Let me know if you need some. Low cost, I only have about $25 in everything and I'm not really looking to make a profit. _________________ Mike
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924RACR
Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 8815 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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WOW. Nicely done, sir.
But on the NA, isn't it just a common copper spade terminal? That's what we have on the '79 racecar... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Fasteddie313
Joined: 29 Sep 2013 Posts: 2596 Location: MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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MikeJinCO wrote: | I now have a many lifetimes supply of coax cable and now 98 crimp on connectors that are a very secure fit to the distributor pickup. To get the stuff I had to buy 30m cable and a box of 100 connectors. The connectors and 5 or so feet of cable could be fit in a mailing envelope. Splicing would be required at least on an NA due to the control box connector. Let me know if you need some. Low cost, I only have about $25 in everything and I'm not really looking to make a profit. |
What would do for a good drop in replacement for the turbo?
I've never really put much thought into this wire because I've never had a problem with it but this sound like it would be a good little bulletproofing for a common problem..
If you just make up a few of em, have them ready to go, and post in the for sale section, I bet you could sell a few. Maybe make some beer money.. _________________ 80 Turbo - Slightly Modified
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Fasteddie313
Joined: 29 Sep 2013 Posts: 2596 Location: MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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924RACR wrote: | WOW. Nicely done, sir.
But on the NA, isn't it just a common copper spade terminal? That's what we have on the '79 racecar... |
Doesn't it have like a sealed/fittied isolation plug through the distributor wall? _________________ 80 Turbo - Slightly Modified |
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MikeJinCO
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 1228 Location: Maysville, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:08 am Post subject: |
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My distributor is from a '78 NA. The spade terminal is a case ground wire as far as I can tell, The coax goes back to the ignition box, I only wish I had a points distributor. And yes it should be a sealed plastic terminal, I may just have to make a silicone type plug. I'd hate to use silicone as it is too much of an adhesive so I could never get it cleaned out again, I do have some mold release spray or probably a gentle swab of light machine oil on a Q-tip. And then a less adhesive sealant. I haven't inspected the inside of the distributor that well and won't be able to for several months due to shoulder surgery soon. _________________ Mike
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Eric P
Joined: 21 Jun 2017 Posts: 175 Location: NY, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Normal spade connectors will fit on a NA. I had to cut my connector off due to a broken wire in the injection molded plug causing an intermittent misfire. I soldered two female spade connectors on, wrapped them in heat shrink, then sealed the whole thing with some silicone. If I pull the plug out, I'll probably need to redo the silicone but it's better than water in my distributor. Not that there should be much moisture in that location anyway.
A new plug would be nice, but I have a lot better things to spend $30 on with this car. From the looks of the 931 plug, it wouldn't fit in a NA distributor anyway. _________________ 1980 924 NA, US model
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MikeJinCO
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 1228 Location: Maysville, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Yes it is a normal spade connector, just the smallest size which is not normally seen on the store shelf, hence the box of 100. I tried the typical red jacket ones for 18-22 wire but I didn't like the closeness of the connectors in the distributor or the wire fit in the connector. The smaller ones fit much tighter and leave more room while fitting the 24 ga coax much better. When I measured the existing coax it appeared to be the equivalent of 26 ga. _________________ Mike
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