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How do you seal the injector holders in a 931?

 
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Johann  



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject: How do you seal the injector holders in a 931? Reply with quote

I have removed all my K-jetronic components to have them rebuilt and balanced by a CIS Specialist. One thing i noticed as I removed the injectors is that the holders are quite loose.

It might very well be that the car is leaking around the holders. What do you guys use to "seal" the holders?

I have been on the interwebs for hours looking for a type of thread locker or sealant. The only thing I can find that is compatibe with plastic is LOCTITE THREADLOCK TAPE 249 or similar plumbling tape



Your help is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this for numerous other threaded fittings, so used it as well - combination thread lock and sealant:

(Permatex 54540)
https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-54540-Pneumatic-Hydraulic-Sealant/dp/B000HBGL14/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503751105&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Loctite+54540

Not sure if it's available in your area, maybe there's something equivalent?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say that this is the best solution, but for sealing threads with plastic pipe a teflon pipe dope in a tube(plumbing supply) is normally used rather than tape as it flows better and won't break the plastic as tape possibly can. Tape is best on metal to metal threads.
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Johann  



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you gentlemen, I have ordered a tube of Loctite 570. It seems to be the closest to the Permatex and comes up when searching for pipe dope too
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, turns out the teflon tape isn't so good for motor applications... it doesn't seal pipe thread, but reduces the friction to allow you to tighten the thread more to achieve the metal-to-metal seal... hence why I was pointed to the Permatex stuff instead...

Very important on my racecar, where vibrations will loosen EVERYTHING not locked down...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looked a bit more... I wonder if Loctite 545 might be a closer match to the Permatex...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Loctite 577
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:42 am    Post subject: Injector socket/holder seal Reply with quote

I have a loose one.The holder(socket) seems loose on mine.
I just bought a set of new injectors and am getting ready to install them and rectify the loose thread.I don’t know yet if the looseness is because of backing out of the head or what but I was wondering how your injector install went and what thread sealer compound you ended up using and also the seal between the injector and the socket/holder p/n 900 123 033 20 sealing ring,is this a generic part or did you need to obtain from Porsche?
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