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Paul  



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:29 pm    Post subject: Ghost issues Reply with quote

The Ghost (87 924S) began stumbling under throttle a few weeks back. Ignition system checked out ok, no vacuum leaks found, compression good, fuel pressure was fine and responded properly when blipping the throttle. O2 sensor indicated rich mixture while stumbling.

Want to guess what it was?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FPR?



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep!

I almost ruled it out when the pressures reacted properly and a vacuum check of the diaphragm resulted in it holding vacuum with the engine off.

With engine running however fuel dribbled out of the vacuum port!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, something to look out for next time I'm troubleshooting. There were a few things that I was thinking could also cause that, and I almost ruled the FPR out since you had checked the fuel pressure, but it was the only thing that fit...

That said, we could play a long game of this with all the things I've come across in the shop.

I once had a guy tell me his 924S was overheating. When we started it up, it didn't take long before the gauge was heading into the red and it was puking coolant everywhere. There was no white smoke in the exhaust and the engine passed a compression test.

Anyone want to guess what it was?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad coolant cap?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, good guess though.

Any other guesses?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuck thermostat
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broken impellor.
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edredas  



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifty50Plus wrote:
Stuck thermostat


Nope, but you're in the right area.



Rasta Monsta wrote:
Broken impellor


Yup, looks like the belt was too tight which bent the shaft, embedding the impeller into the waterpump. I would've thought I'd heard the belt squealing or some other signs, so it stumped the hell out of me...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooohh, BMW impellers as well as Dodge Intrepids (plastic) would swell/shrink
and slip (not keyed or pegged) when hot and cause the same condition in traffic but not the open road.
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