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frozen-solid1
Joined: 04 Nov 2010 Posts: 17 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: Will it Fit ? |
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I am sure someone here knows, will a 4.5 ltr V-8 from a 928 fit into a 924 ? _________________ As for me and my house we will serve the Lord. |
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the_mad_electrician

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1073 Location: Central Georgia
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:48 am Post subject: |
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I'll say it like it was told to me wheb I first got into car about 15 years ago, any engine will fit any car you have the tools and want it bad enough! If you just want a v8 924 you are far better off with a GM Ls engine it is lighter, makes more power and is far less expensive on parts! _________________ 81 924 N/A
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Not directly. It will apparently fit between the frame rails as the 924 is slightly wider there than the 928.
Bellhousing is different and the 928 has the clutch mounted in the rear.
You could use the complete 928 drivetrain and adapt it to fit.
Or
It does appear that the 928's bellhousing could bolt up to the 944/931 TT, but you'll need to build a custom clutch solution with perhaps a hydraulic throw out bearing in order to fit it all in the 928 housing.
Motor mounts would be custom, as would the exhaust.
an Audi V8 is actually closer to the 924 bellhousing and the clutch is easier to sort out.
Still custom mounts, exhaust, etc. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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flosho

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3160 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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That's what she said? _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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sbarc

Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 545 Location: West Coast of Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I have a friend that is a 944 nut......I asked him this question and he told me the 928 block is a wide V to make the motor sit low. This makes the motor wider....too wide to easily drop into the 924/944. This is why guys use the Chevy V8......which is a narrow V8.
I'm sure it could be done....but it would be very difficult.
But to have a 944 with a 928 drivetrain would be the ultimate car at a car show if done right. _________________ 1981 931 (Canadian car)
1981 931 (US car)
1990 928GT (ROW car)
1991 Toyota MR2
1989 Toyota MR2 Super Charged
1985 Toyota Supra
1973 Triumph GT6
1971 Opel GT |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: |
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 _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
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sbarc

Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 545 Location: West Coast of Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: |
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What car is this?......was the the Dasher body that was widened 9" and dropped onto a 928 Chassis by the 928 factory? _________________ 1981 931 (Canadian car)
1981 931 (US car)
1990 928GT (ROW car)
1991 Toyota MR2
1989 Toyota MR2 Super Charged
1985 Toyota Supra
1973 Triumph GT6
1971 Opel GT |
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frozen-solid1
Joined: 04 Nov 2010 Posts: 17 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: Thanks to all |
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Just wondering if it would be an easy or hard swap. Have a chance to get a running 4.5 ltr from a 928 pretty cheap. Still trying to figure out what I wanna do with this 931. _________________ As for me and my house we will serve the Lord. |
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BionicBalls

Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 642 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: |
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That's what she said? |
Thank you, I was waiting for somebody to say it. _________________ 1980 924 NA
1982 931 |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Thanks to all |
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| frozen-solid1 wrote: | | Just wondering if it would be an easy or hard swap. |
Hard.
The major challenges, as discussed elsewhere on the board:
- fitment between shock towers
- front-to-back fitment / position of radiator
- will require relocating the brake booster
- bell housing & torque tube arrangement
The 4.5L is the least desirable of the 928 motors, especially if it's US-spec. For the effort and money you would spend to do all of the above, you could completely rebuild and modify a 931 motor and achieve more power. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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sbarc

Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 545 Location: West Coast of Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yah.....the early 928 motors don't produce much power......but they sure are a pretty engine. I've pondered buying an early 928 simply because I love the look of the motor. _________________ 1981 931 (Canadian car)
1981 931 (US car)
1990 928GT (ROW car)
1991 Toyota MR2
1989 Toyota MR2 Super Charged
1985 Toyota Supra
1973 Triumph GT6
1971 Opel GT |
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Nobbi
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 1396 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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The rabbit in the pic is 20cm wider then normal.It was cut in half and then welded back together.Dont think it is worth it.  _________________ NA 924 - april/1977- 4-speed-audi gearbox.
500.000 km with fun.....and new toy:Porsche 944 S2 Cabriolet.Other car Daimler c-class cabby,brandnew..Plus : DEUTZ 4005 tractor Built 1967 |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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The 924 engines is mounted at a very big angle...i think the 928 engine is at most that inclined. so..between the rails and the towers...no problem.
I've been tinkering with the idea of a cayenne V8 inside a 924.
The biggest problem that i see is that the brake cyl and the servo brake pot is in the way and you'd have to move that. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com |
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the_mad_electrician

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1073 Location: Central Georgia
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking the cayenne engine in a 928 would be cool where would you find on though? _________________ 81 924 N/A
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rat

Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 92 Location: Colchester, Essex, UK
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