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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11724 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: Tie Rod Gebafflement |
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Tie rods for early toofahs - 477 419 803 B
- NA up to chassis 92DN4 02093
- Turbo up to chassis 93DN1 00185
- Female threaded outer TRE
- NLA
Tie rods for CGT - 944 347 033 00
- Female threaded outer TRE
- Same rack as 931
- Same knuckles as four wheel disk toofah, early 944
- NLA
Tie rods for late toofahs, early 944s - 944 347 033 01
- Male threaded outer TRE
- Listed as superceded for early toofah, early 944
This hurts my head! Is there any way to end up with a female threaded TRE? WHY, you ask? For one, compatibility with Elephant Racing's Thuper Thexthy Bump Steer mod.
Yar!!! _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like a Rabbit tie-rod would work.
BTW, here's the part cross-reference for an outer tie-rod on an 80 924 Turbo from Rockauto.com:
BMW 323I (1978 - 1982)
PORSCHE 924 (1979 - 1980)
PORSCHE 944 (1981 - 1982)
VOLKSWAGEN CADDY PICKUP (1982 - 1992)
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF (1976 - 1983)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (1979 - 1984)
VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO (1975 - 1989)
VOLKSWAGEN TRANSPORTER (1979 - 1992)
VOLVO 340 (1984 - 1991)
VOLVO 360 (1983 - 1989)
The other parts are similar. Unfortunately, no one carries the inner tie-rod. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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931Owner
Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 352 Location: Chicago NW Suburbs
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Odd that there is no cross-reference between the VW parts and the Porsche 924 on the inner tie-rod.
Rockauto has the same inner tie-rod for about $12:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1340000
But you have to pay for shipping and wait for it to arrive, so you pay a little more for the store front and instant gratification _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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Joes924Racer
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Boy the bump steer kit isnt cheap. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Speed costs money, how fast you wanna go is directly related to how much money is spent.
Note: this doesn't mention anything about fun, since having fun can be had for free
examples: 24 Hours of Le Mans = expensive to race and win. 24 Hours of Lemons = much cheaper to race and win. Champ Car Racing is expensive and ChumpCar Racing is cheap. All of them can be insanely fun... _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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I was going to say, the tie rod ends that I just bought and installed for the 941 in order to bolt up power steering rack (taken from a 944) were early offset tie rods, and had female threaded outer TRE, early offset length. I've never seen a male threaded TRE.
Then I realized the issue is with the power vs. non-power racks. D'oh. Interesting conundrum. Have you contacted ER to see if they can make a version with male threaded TREs? _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:36 am Post subject: |
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This eBay reseller appears to have early style tie rod sets:
http://stores.ebay.com/Q-E-Auto-Parts _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15548 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Harm
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1373 Location: Holland
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Tie Rod Gebafflement |
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fiat22turbo wrote: | Seems like a Rabbit tie-rod would work. |
^Livestream of my vee-dubs MK1 TRE^
I've got both Toofah and VW components of the suspension/steering as extra parts on the shelf ATM:
I will exchange them to see how it fits etc.
HTH
Regards, Harm. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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JMALONE26
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 165 Location: Staten Island, NY
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:28 am Post subject: |
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So the inner tie-rods are the same as a 1980 Jetta? I hope so, otherwise they're so damn expensive. _________________ 93 Mustang
87 Fiero
88,89,89 Daytona Shelby
80 924 N/A
84,89 LeBaron
89 Pulsar
87 Merkur XR4Ti
86 Corvette
72, 74 MGB GT
86 Audi Coupe GT
82 Porsche 931 |
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stevekat
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Ah, you mean female threaded where the tie rod end connects to the knuckle, or a hole like a helm joint, not where the tie rod end interfaces with the tie rod. _________________ "Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you are goin' all the way."
Gone to new home: '81 924T, US version, CGT Intercooler, UTCIS-PT, Euro DITC, Greddy Trust MBC, Forged Fuchs Flat Dish 6's, Factory Recaro's. |
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stevekat
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 719 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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I guess you want to find a heim joint, where you can put a bolt through the business end, that has female threads to screw into the inner tie rod assembly if such a correct female part exisits.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/944-bump-steer-continued/15239/page1/
http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/suspension-mods-f6/x-member-drop-down-bolt-on-bump-steer-kit-t20-15.htm
Otherwise this hybrid using a Toyota part looks interesting. _________________ "Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you are goin' all the way."
Gone to new home: '81 924T, US version, CGT Intercooler, UTCIS-PT, Euro DITC, Greddy Trust MBC, Forged Fuchs Flat Dish 6's, Factory Recaro's.
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JMALONE26
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 165 Location: Staten Island, NY
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
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I just got an inner and outer tie-rod on ebay for $25, free shipping. Lets hope it fits! _________________ 93 Mustang
87 Fiero
88,89,89 Daytona Shelby
80 924 N/A
84,89 LeBaron
89 Pulsar
87 Merkur XR4Ti
86 Corvette
72, 74 MGB GT
86 Audi Coupe GT
82 Porsche 931 |
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leadfoot
Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 2222 Location: gOLD cOAST Australia
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