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[tuurbo]

Look at this thing:

http://www.kitcarusa.com/articles/imagePage.php?imagesrc=800px-Regal_l67.jpg&imagealt=A%203800%20Series%20II%20L67%20Supercharged%20engine%20in%20a%201998%20Buick%20Regal%20GS.&credit_to=&credit_to_www=

Now, in our car, it's mounted with the serpentine belt to the front, I would assume. I think that's the beast that can be transplanted? What do you think?

I've searched and found other threads but no one has actually done this and lived, correct? I saw one website with a 924 but was scant on facts.

Any guesses on cost?

Same as a V8? Less fab work than a V8? Generally easier?

I started up my car this week and didn't like the oil smoke. I'm thinking it's time to rebuild the 4 cylinder.

Or this one?

http://www.kitcarusa.com/articles/imagePage.php?imagesrc=95RivEngine.jpg&imagealt=A%20supercharged%203800%20installed%20in%20a%20Buick%20Riviera%20for%201995,%20the%20last%20year%20of%20Series%20I%20L67%20production.%20Power%20is%20225%C2%A0hp%20(168%C2%A0kW)%20for%20this%20version.&credit_to=&credit_to_www=

Gasp!
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1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock.

[tuurbo]

Hmmm. Maybe it's just BS.
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1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock.

[fiat22turbo]

I believe the 3800's are related to the venerable small block chevy, so the swap would be fairly similar.

However, I'd be concerned with hood clearance and with the added weight of the supercharger and accessories, you wouldn't be far behind a Chevy LS2 small block that puts out more power.
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Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)

[ideola]

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[tuurbo]

Ok thanks Ideola - the second one is a good article - how do you find these? lol

The first one I checked out yesterday and it's long on hp but they don't say much what was modified or show pics. I'm going to try to contact the second article person, Bob Ward and see what I can find out.

I can sub out motor mount fabrication or even alter a cross member, but the steering? I doubt it. Maybe once I talk with this guy things can get clearer. But if it's a one off I could just as easily lose my shirt attempting it without the technical and tools background - subcontractors can do the work but most will want to be paid.
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1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock.

[ideola]

[tuurbo]

Yeah it looks like a monster.

I think with either the turbo or the supercharged version of this style/type of engine (about 3800 V6) engines, you'll have to pop a hole in the hood or make a 'cowl induction' or other monstrosity to cover up the bulge. But, who knows, I'd be doing it for the reliability of the engine and the availability of parts. And right now it's just a pipe dream until I nail down some questions.

The headlights were pretty interesting - the fact that he had two circular ones mounted nicely. I didn't care for the 'eyelid' look but I liked the powerful dual rounded lights.
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1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock.

[StienbargerR]

Tuurbo,

I dont mean to rain on your parade, but if you are doing an engine swap, it is probably best to use a V8. When I had my V6 conversion car, I did a lot of research on it, and many people have ruined their transmissions using V6's. It has something to do with the vibrations that GM V6's cause. If you look at what cars have the V6's, you will notice that most of them are connected to Auto transmissions, which are supposed to deal with this vibration alot better.

Ryan
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1978 924 NA
-250lb lowering springs, Euro Pistons

[tuurbo]

I like automatics. If I did a swap, I'd probably put in an automatic.

I haven't seen a successful V8 hooked up to our gearbox, with instructions and pictures anyone can follow, but I'd do it if I thought it'd work.
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1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock.

[mcadam1121]

yea do the v8 swap
i did a bunch of research on the 3800 swap and it wouldnt be that hard but a v8 would be easier

basically use parts from a camaro to do the swap
and then use a clucth from an 88 vanagon to mount to the torque tube if you got the 4spd
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The Ginger
77 porsche 924 Martini

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[fiat22turbo]

[Rasta Monsta]

Chad, what up with your Caddi project?
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• WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3

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