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fezza575m

Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Sunshine coast QLD, Aus
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Exhaust systems?? |
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In the next couple of weeks i will be getting a new exhaust system on my toofah...looking to make it sound a bit meatier and match the CGT looks
Just curious to see what some of you have on your cars and if you could recommend a particular set up?
Also if anyone has any sound/video clips that would be great!
Cheers,
G _________________ Red 1977 Porsche 924 CGT...THE MORPH IS COMPLETE  |
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Meneer aard

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 73 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: |
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first thing to do is removing your centre muffler..replace is with a slightly bigger pipe..sounds great.
today i have installed a 4-2-1 header on my 924..:
 _________________ Porsche 924 Euro 1977 |
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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 143 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: |
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After removing your cat Meneer how did your car perform, better or worse? How much back pressure do these cars need to perform? _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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fezza575m

Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Sunshine coast QLD, Aus
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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your car sounds good
hmm sorry for being such a noob to this thing but i have a few mates with 911's whos cars "crackle", something also that scorpios car does. I think it sounds great and would like to have my car doing the same.
Does anyone elses car 'crackle'?
Do you know what setup is required for this?
thanks  _________________ Red 1977 Porsche 924 CGT...THE MORPH IS COMPLETE  |
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StienbargerR
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 1362 Location: Richmond, IN
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have a turbo style muffler made by dynamax. i like it alot.. it is not too loud, but very sporty. On Hot days the exhaust crackles a little bit, if you downshift or rev it up real quick.
Ryan _________________ 1978 924 NA
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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The crackle or popping is typically due to running hot/lean - can be timing as much as fuel adjustment.
It'll typically occur on cars with not the best fuel control systems - lesser EFI systems, and carbs, for example - that dump unneeded fuel out the pipe on lifts.
Our CIS system doesn't usually have this problem, so it's atypical to have much popping out the exhaust. I agree, it sounds cool as hell, but it isn't actually right to have such things happening...
Same goes for flames shooting out the tailpipe - as often seen on turbos and NASCRAP cars. Looks impressive, but personally I'd rather be burning that stuff inside my engine, where it'll make power! There's a reason it's called an Internal Combustion Engine, after all... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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'82 931 Plat. Silver
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fezza575m

Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Sunshine coast QLD, Aus
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for your post....good points there
while what you are saying makes sense....it would be interesting to find out what set up scrorpio has..is it his exhaust system or fuel setup?
because his cracks and pops a fair bit
Also i was talking to a mate today who said that an aftermarket resinator can make a car do that...any truth?? _________________ Red 1977 Porsche 924 CGT...THE MORPH IS COMPLETE  |
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Scorpio

Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 1957 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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ill double check under the car tomorrow..but it was definately not running lean or hot..the CIS was in great condition
Mine runs a split system about halfway under the body there is a Y connection splitting the exhaust into two pipes...i have a feeling the secondary muffler(think thats what its called) was removed.
Sounded like an apache helicopter on roids!! _________________ 1979 NA
MS1..EFI..
GARRETT T25 TURBO
BILSTEIN SHOCKS
GT BASED CUSTOM BODYKIT
Brisbane , Australia
Think mean think fast
all youll see is
my Porsches Arse!!! |
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think that no matter what you do you will only gain a few HP. I tried them all. I liked the split downpipe with duals the best but it was too loud for NY and an old guy like me. I did not want the attention as my motor would not pass inspection if I got stopped.
You should really think of what you are trying to achieve as to sound, back pressure or looks.
I liked the sound and the looks of duals with Suppertrapp caps on the ends that you could move the power curve around a little. Add plates to make it louder or remove them to make it quieter. If you look at the pics Peter entered this past week of my car you will see what I mean.
For the cost of a different exhaust I would put the money in the suspension. Then again it is only my opinion. _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
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Meneer aard

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 73 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| elitejaso wrote: | | After removing your cat Meneer how did your car perform, better or worse? How much back pressure do these cars need to perform? |
its not the cat (i have no cat at all)..doesn`t need in the netherlands (only from 1992 or early if it says on your paper of the car).
With this first silenr/muffler removed, the engine revs more freely and felt stronger on the 0-100 km/h run. Its now over 8,5 seconds 0-100. _________________ Porsche 924 Euro 1977 |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:00 am Post subject: |
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I would wrap all those wires with something to protect them from heat. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Firesleeve is cool. . .my battery cables are wrapped in it. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: |
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What gauge are the spark plug wires? They seem thin. I run 8mm. _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock |
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fezza575m

Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Sunshine coast QLD, Aus
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Meneer aard wrote: | | elitejaso wrote: | | After removing your cat Meneer how did your car perform, better or worse? How much back pressure do these cars need to perform? |
its not the cat (i have no cat at all)..doesn`t need in the netherlands (only from 1992 or early if it says on your paper of the car).
With this first silenr/muffler removed, the engine revs more freely and felt stronger on the 0-100 km/h run. Its now over 8,5 seconds 0-100. |
any sound clip/video?
Cheers _________________ Red 1977 Porsche 924 CGT...THE MORPH IS COMPLETE  |
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fezza575m

Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Sunshine coast QLD, Aus
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Here is an Idea of what i would like my car to sound like...i know this is a 924S and doesnt use the same engine
but is it posible for my car to sound something like this one??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7CT_MtUTiQ
Cheers
G _________________ Red 1977 Porsche 924 CGT...THE MORPH IS COMPLETE  |
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