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How to Install a Rear Sway Bar on a 924 without one
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Chrenan  



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: How to Install a Rear Sway Bar on a 924 without one Reply with quote

You'll need from a 944:

1. the rear sway-bar

2. the removable portion of the mounting brackets that hold the bushings to the torsion bar housing

3. the bushings

4. the "dog-bone" drop links and bolts

5. the exteneded eccentric adjusting bolts that hold the sway-bar to the trailing arms.

All can be seen below:



Now you'll need 2 very solid 3.5 inch guillotine clamps to go around the torsion bar housings. You'll need to drill holes inbound of the stock holes on the guillotine clamp brackets. Then pass bolts from inside the guillotine clamp bracket through the holes you drilled. These bolts are where you will secure number "2" from the picture above. You can then mount the sway-bar to the torsion bar housings using these clamps:





You should play around with the orientation of the guillotine clamps on the torsion bar housings until the "dog-bone" drop links are perpendicular to the ground with the car off jack stands.

This is the easiest way to mount a rear sway-bar to a non-equipped 924. Weltmeister even makes a kit to do it, but you are basically paying $200 US for a couple of 3.5 inch clamps.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please post the part numbers to these parts.

also, if you get the factory 19mm sway, do you also have to get the optional 21.5 front sway to balance out the car's suspension?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you go for an 19mm in the rear I would go for an 26.8 or 30mm

An 968 orignal has 26.8 front, 16mm rear, 968 M030 is 30 front, 19mm rear.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking to keep my car 100% stock.

But I am willing to gain performance through factory options.

please advise
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am running the M471 23 mm with the 19 in the rear, and it is pretty well balanced.

Also, as an alternative, you can hack the factory mounts from a junkyard car and weld them on. This gives you a nice seating surface for the bushing, and allows the bar to lay closer to the torsion bar carrier, which in turn makes it easier to obtain the correct geometry.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how were the factory mounts installed onto the 924? I am not talking about the part where there wishbone goes on.

I own a 87 924s. Looking for stock factory options mine didn't come with.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, factory rear sway bar mounts were welded to the torsion bar carriers.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it possible to remove the torsion bar carrier on a donor and have it as a straight bolt-on upgrade?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think so, but it is quite a PITA to dismantle the rear suspension that far.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May be a PITA, but it's a 30 to 60 minute job once the car is up on stands. This assumes the donor includes the brake and hub assemblies.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZOUNDS! Just stumbled across something interesting in the early 944 PET. . .you can buy new rear sway bar brackets from Porsche, ready to weld on!

477 501 095 - Mounts (2)
133 411 333 - Retaining bows (2)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whiteline sell brackets to mount the rear swaybar - KU3 universal fits the best, and you can use 14mm poly bushes with it...
they also sell drop links for the rear bar... in s link and heim joint with adjustable length...
drop links for the front bar
and a 933, 18mm rear sway bar....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Chrenan...I just realized I'm the one billing on your rear sway bar! LMAO! You have all of the mounting pieces for it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, too funny!!! No, I only have the bar and the torsion tube bushings, I re-used all the other hardware on my car when I went to the 19mm rear sway bar. I'm sure someone here will have the remaining bits and pieces.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank-you Chrenan and Smoothie! Worked like a charm.



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