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PORSCHEV · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject:

Vinegar and water work really well for cleaning mold. Good luck Paul...don't bail on us so easy!
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Tigger937 · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:49 am Post subject:

LYSOL is a great mold neutralizer. Kills any active bacteria rather quickly. I suggest you spray inside the car, close it up and let it sit overnight, maybe repeating the process again. Then you should be able to begin the cleanup process safely.
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Lizard · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:

fix the car, sell the wife!

on a more serious note, how many PMs have you seen from vultures yet?
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Paul · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject:

I've been married since 72, but only a Porsche owner since 74, so I'll keep a very fine wife!!!

Only a few PMs....
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CBass · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Paul · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:31 am Post subject:

More than I ever wanted to know about mold in cars can be found here:

http://www.moldinspector.com/car_and_van_mold.htm
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White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.

Smoothie · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:14 am Post subject:

That's interesting - they say to use hydrogen peroxide instead of chlorine to spray into the hvac system. I may try that too, but the chlorine seems to work well enough.
I guess both will take the color out of fabrics and carpeting if spilled...

I checked on the Cherokee yesterday and found the mold smell completely gone as far as I can tell - and I have serious allergies to molds, among other things.
-Then closed the windows and refilled the pan on the floor with water+bleach. The front-passenger floor has a puddle again and I still don't know where it's coming in. It's been sitting that way for some time, but I believe it's because the windows have been opened a crack that the mold/mildew sights and smells haven't returned.
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Paul · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:19 am Post subject:

I believe this was written in Canada, it must be true....

http://www.bleach-mold-myth.com/
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Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.

Smoothie · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:16 am Post subject:

Well I don't generally have a problem believing stuff from Canada, but that is a commercial site with the standard hyped look and links back to where they're selling stuff - and some of it at $30-$40 per quart. -So you have to temper the hype with some common sense and decide for yourself how much you want to be scared or not by it.

-Doesn't mean they're not telling the truth there - and from personal experience I know that mold can be dangerous stuff. It's just that hype (and any kind of advertising, but especially hype,) stops me every time to question what's really going on and I'm generally left doubting whatever's said because of the way it was presented. One thing I have to question is their claim that bleach (actually sodium hypochlorite, not chlorine), while it does effectively deal with mold on a smooth surface, does not work on porous surfaces. Common sense tells me that if it's evaporated into the air, that air will disperse and infuse itself into everything in a closed space and get to everything.
But that's just my opinion derived from my own version of "common sense" plus personal experience and what I'm pretty sure I'm seeing.

With my Cherokee, if it wasn't the evaporating bleach that rid the interior of the mold smell, then the opened windows alone took care of the problem because that's all that was done.

Hey - some of that green might only be algae. Take the environmentally friendly approach - throw some snails in there!

[except then you'd be left with snail poop and the need for ammonia or bleach again]

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timstar92404 · Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC

I'm having the same problem. Someone on rennlist recommended this, going to try it soon.

http://www.concrobium.com/

it's odourless, doesn't colour and nontoxic.

My backseat / back footwell was flooded and I had green / blue mold growing on my backseat.

only way to fix it is to remove the backseat, rip out all the wet and moldy insulation / sound deadening and through it out.

someone also said washing the backseat and carpet wtih OXY CLEAN WILL help get rid of the mold.

then once that is dry you can spary the concrobium and replace the sound deadening and reinstall everything.

I also thought that my sunroof was leaking so I replaced the drains, got new sunroof seals and conveted to a manual sunroof but I still had the back flood so someone told me that it is most likely the quarter window that is leaking and now I"m sure it is.

I think I fixed my quarter window leak by lifting up the seal where it contacts the glass and sealing it up with urethane or silicone and now for the past few days I haven't seen it flood so I think it's fixed.
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timstar92404 · Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC

Yeah mold can be potentially dangerous. Worst case scenerio if you inhale mold spores they can grow in your lung as it's dark and moist and perfect for mold and that can be pretty dangerous.

I also used lysol all over my backseat and carpet when I saw the mold, but that was just a temporary thing, only solution is to remove everythign that is wet and moldy and properly clean it dry it and use the concrobium stuff to kill and prevent it from coming back.

also lysol mixed with mildewy smell inside the car kind of smells gross.

It might not be possilble to kill all the mold in the backseat because that concrobium stuff has to come in contact with the mold and it might not get deep enough in the padding indside the seat.

getting a new backseat probably doesn't cost much so you can replace it if you want.
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Paul · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject:

Thanks Timstar, that was very useful info.
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White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.

CBass · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada

flosho · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:08 am Post subject:

wow.. looks like this moisture is infectous. Today when I came out, my windows, front and side door ones, were wet.. The condensation from the moisture in the car was on the windows and it was bad!!!

I'm hoping it's just the crazy weather we've been having, last week 70 degrees, the last 5 days, 35 and below..

No mold, since it was out in the driveway with a little sunlight beating down on it, but not cool none the less.
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Smoothie · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:32 am Post subject:

Yup, it will happen. All you need is for the interior to be moist and warmer than the exterior, like right after driving it in cold weather - close the windows tight and the moisture from the interior air + whatever's in the carpet will condense onto the insides of the glass.
I've been in the habit of leaving the windows opened a crack through the winter to keep from having to scrape frost off the insides of the glass at night.
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