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mfratt · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Boston, MA

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Nobbi · Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 1396 Location: Germany

Hello,

well, in whole of the western world and europe (Germany) they do the same checks. Even if i take a plane from Duesseldorf to Berlin.
It`s standard procedure. But you can off course buy toothpaste and drinks in the duty-free area in the airport and carry them in your handluggage.(After check-in)
Its just to prevend that someone brings prepared items on board which have maybe the capability to cause a crash.

Happy landing....nobbi

Lizard · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:02 am Post subject:

I had only gone down this time for 1 week there Leigh, but I normally have my toiletries on my carry on as my bags are normally stuffed full of work clothes and tools.
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Kenodog · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 2669 Location: Vancouver,B.C.

Where did you go this time ?
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-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

If they didn't keep losing my bags, I'd be happy to check everything! I'd feel safer mailing them in advance to my relatives for the holidays.

I'm all for a military presence at US airports. Nothing more intimidating than an angry-looking young kid in camo holding an assualt rifle. Of course, if we'd stop acting like a$$holes to everyone, that could help too

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Lizard · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:06 am Post subject:

good call on that one Nick,

and I went to manuel benavidas, much more americanized there than in veracruz, as well no tics, or other nast bugs, saw a tarantula though.
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Vince Ponz · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida

I guess you don't get it. They do that so we all buy new items to support retail stores whether here or abroad.
I took 24 rolls of film to Europe and never had a problem with it although I had them hand check them. Except for Sweden. They made me put them under the scanner and although they told me that they were safe. I say the film color shifted.
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alxch1n15 · Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 261 Location: Madison, Wisconsin

i'd rather go through everything that we have to, to be safe. now that things are allowed back on planes, it really isnt that bad. yeah...i realize that its an inconvienece to have to not take large amounts of toiletries on a plane, but imagine the one plane that someone did hijack and blow up. it would suck.
in this case, at least for me, the possibility of something like that, and recognizing the social outcry if something like that were to happen, i would rather take the appropriate steps. what would people say if another plane blew up? would it be because we had too much security? nah. it would be because we didn't have enough. its always going to be like that.
im not trying to say that we couldnt make changes to the current way things are done. im always open to the idea of change.
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Lizard · Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:00 am Post subject:

I think that your security systems are way to stringent, and alot of the things are stupid.

If they have the technology to get a bomb big enough to take out a plane into a tube of toothpaste whats to say that they wouldnt have the technology to get other forms of weapons on board? or what about 2 smaller tubes of toothpaste. That is allowed, all I am saying is that IMO the security measures are bloody stupid.
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!tom · Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:38 am Post subject:

So it would suck if someone blew up a plane, but it wouldn't suck if someone blew up a bus?

I've never understood the insane security measures put in place for airplane travel, while other forms of mass transportation have no security at all.
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-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

Important people don't ride buses, so why would we care?

A well placed pencil to an eyeball is just as dangerous as a box cutter. Do we ban pencils too? If you really wanted to end all chances of airline hijacking, you would just make airplanes illegal. Boy, that was easy

The toiletry ban is just another false security blanket. It seems to make people feel better and they think the government is doing something. Sorry to break the news, but as long as someone hates you, you aren't "safe".
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alxch1n15 · Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 261 Location: Madison, Wisconsin

ill agree, we probably dont need to ban these substances. however, there is a need for security, and even if it is a blanket, it is still something necessary. in comparison, what is religion, other than a blanket of saftey for what happens after death?
i guess i dont understand why so much criticism is sent towards this policy. so many things go on underneath the surface, both to protect us, and to do against us, i suppose i am secure with knowing that the government is doing something. i believe this because terrorism doesnt come from a uniform group, it comes from small groups of people, who most likely don't know each other. all other wars, there was a group we could fight against, nazi's, N. koreans, The South, Canada....but these are all nations that are complete groups; we can look at a map and say, yes here is such and such a nation. terrorism is a completely different thing, its not like fighting a war, but fighting a virus.

just my two cents.
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geddes66 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 129 Location: Bakersfield CA

I thought you all would get a kick out of this security rule gone STUPID.

When I flew back from Bosnia with my California national guard unit, last January, Most of us had our M-16A2 and a M-9 9mm pistol, some had a M-60 or M249 SAW also. We were all told to place them under the seats of the chartered airliner with the muzzles facing outward. BUT, even with all these weapons on board, we were not allowed even a pocet knife!

BTW, Just because we are inconvenienced does not mean the terrorists have won, it only means we have been inconvenieced.

I too like the idea of giving every passenger a single shot pistol. However this would only be a deterrent to take over attempts. It would not deter a bomber unless you caught him trying to assemble the bomb.
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geddes66 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 129 Location: Bakersfield CA

oops, double post.
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Nobbi · Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 1396 Location: Germany

About a year ago i had to fligh twice a month to greenville/South carolina/USA.First i took a US Airline and then i thouht: It`s maybe safer to fly with Lufthansa, not so much americans on board! As i checked in at the Frankfurt-Airport first thing i see: Hundreds of BDU covered GI`s!!!!
They were thinking exactly as i am!!!
So,lesson learned-

Nobbi