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Removing rear taillight lens?
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timstar92404  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure where to drill (I don't even have a drill I would have to buy one). also if you drill a hole in it, it would still be wet in there but it wouldn't fill up with lots of water. I don't really like the idea of drlling holes in it.

I'll go look at it again tomorrow, I don't see any crack anywhere so it must be a seal

if I can't remove it I guess the drill method should be better than nothing bit how small is "small" like what size drill bit. Also won't the lens crack easily if you drill it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO NOT DRILL THE LENS.

Drill the mounting frame from behind.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha thanks for telling me. I thought it was the lens. What part of the "mounting frame to you drille I guess the only part you can trill would be the side closest to the license plate
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TIM,

The lens and body are supposed to be a single sealed piece with the only openings being the holes where the bulbs stick in from the inside of the car.

If you have water leaking into the lens, then you have cracks in the lens, or in the sections between the lens. This is not repairable. A leak in the seal between the body and the tail light body will not result in water inside of the taillights.

Your choices to reduce the problems caused by a leaking lens are limited to: replacing the taillight assembly (only a new one will be better than the one you already have, and that's $100), or drilling a hole in the lens section/s at the bottoms, where the water is accumulating.

IF YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO DRILL THE HOLE IN THE REAR OF THE TAIL LIGHT BODY, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET IS A FLOODED REAR COMPARTMENT. Before you do that, think about where the water that you let out of the lense is going to go...

Either drill the holes, or buy new tail lights.

Your ignorance never fails to amaze me. You claim you have/had all this money to buy, service, and maintain a 944, and you complain to you don't have a drill? GO OUT AND BUY A DRILL ! ! !

WHY BOTHER TO SOLICIT ADVICE, IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO LISTEN? ? ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah I can buy a drill but I probably won't use it for anything else so it's a waste of money. I could probably use someone elses drill so that's not a problem

I wasn't going to drill a hole in the back of the lense assembly, obviously it would drain into the hatch.

only other spot I can see is the bottom of the lense itself or the black casing part on the side (outisde the car).

Gohim, I think you did not understand what I was saying.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't resist, let's give Tim 10 things he can do with his new drill:

I'll go first:

Number 10: he can drill holes in his tail lights.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 9: Drill holes in OTHER PEOPLE'S tail lights.

(I've got about 30 or 40 others but I'll let others have some.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 8: Drill holes in HIS COMPUTER AND COMPUTER MONITOR, so he will stop posting worthless messages asking for advice that he never reads or follows.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 7: drill a hole in his hatch so he can have another exhaust/headache problem to post about.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numeber 6: Drill down through the driveway and into the earth deep enough to find oil...install well...profit immensly...pay a mechanic to work on the 944 and someone else to post for information on the internet.
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timstar92404  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one.

Looks like I don't need to drill holes through anything. I don't see any cracks on either tail light that will let water in. I removed it today, came out easily I had missed the 6th nut. Looks like it leaks from the goo seal and into the light casing from the back.

I'm sure of this because on the left side that is still installed on the car there is also water only on upper far right red lens and I used a hose to on the tailight and water leaked out through the seal above where the red lens is but I did not see it runn into the lens but around the casing but when the lights are installed I'm sure it would run into the lens.

I'm 99% sure it's the seal not the lens. I filled up the lens with water when it was out and I did not see water leaking out anywhere from a crack.

So now I need to find that goop playdo looking seal stuff.


I also tested my sunroof for leaks today I couldn't see a leak... the sunroof gear is broken and the lowering part of the switch only makes noise when depressed. I raised the sunroof manually with the small wrench and it wouldn't come out so I just closed it manually again. I don't really want to use the sunroof I just want to be sure that it won't leak.

the seal is different than on my 924, there is a seal on the sunroof itself (cloth like) and a seal on the actual roof that is very thin and hard. With this seal there is a very tiny (maybe 1mm) gap between the sunroof and the roof so I don't get how water is suppose to get to the drain holes. whoever installed all the seals on my car cut them ( the hatch seal looks new but it was cut so it would be easier to install).



anyways thanks for the help it should be fixed once I find the proper seal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you posting 944 question here instead of on one of the 944-specific boards?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just trying to make another simple task a 5 page thread....lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe the 944 boards have wised up and already have his IP blocked. i'm sure theres 944 spies around here all the time
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timstar92404 wrote:
Good one.

Looks like I don't need to drill holes through anything. I don't see any cracks on either tail light that will let water in. I removed it today, came out easily I had missed the 6th nut. Looks like it leaks from the goo seal and into the light casing from the back.

I'm sure of this because on the left side that is still installed on the car there is also water only on upper far right red lens and I used a hose to on the tailight and water leaked out through the seal above where the red lens is but I did not see it runn into the lens but around the casing but when the lights are installed I'm sure it would run into the lens.

I'm 99% sure it's the seal not the lens. I filled up the lens with water when it was out and I did not see water leaking out anywhere from a crack.

So now I need to find that goop playdo looking seal stuff.


I also tested my sunroof for leaks today I couldn't see a leak... the sunroof gear is broken and the lowering part of the switch only makes noise when depressed. I raised the sunroof manually with the small wrench and it wouldn't come out so I just closed it manually again. I don't really want to use the sunroof I just want to be sure that it won't leak.

the seal is different than on my 924, there is a seal on the sunroof itself (cloth like) and a seal on the actual roof that is very thin and hard. With this seal there is a very tiny (maybe 1mm) gap between the sunroof and the roof so I don't get how water is suppose to get to the drain holes. whoever installed all the seals on my car cut them ( the hatch seal looks new but it was cut so it would be easier to install).



anyways thanks for the help it should be fixed once I find the proper seal.


Now THAT's a good post! You took it upon yourself to critically analyze the problem, remove the parts that are effected, examine them, determine their condition, arrive at a conclusion and set a course of action for rectifying the problem. You tested the part by filling with water and watching for leaks instead of asking someone to tell you if it's leaking or not.

Do the same w/the sunroof. Buy the parts and fix it if you want it to work. If you don't want to buy the parts, don't bother posting about it because that won't help until you buy the parts to fix it.


#5. Buy a wire wheel cup attachment and use the drill to polish the aluminum valve tower cover on the 944 engine so he can paint the PORSCHE lettering in red so his car will go faster. #1 improvement mod among all younger 944 owners ya know.
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