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seanski44
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 Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: slightly scary moment on the way back from band practice... |
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OK, so earlier today I could have sworn I saw the 'brake' light (underneath the 'parking brake' light) come on, but was so brief I assumed it was a mistake.
anyway, I was on my way back from band practice tonight, and it came on and went off a few times - around about the time I showed a corrado that it didn't have the metal.
what's that mean then? - another electrical gremlin, or does it come on for a reason? no other lights came on, oil pressure wasn't too bad, volts were OK, water temp OK also....
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Check whatever light comes on {for the issue it signals}, then check the ground wire for that light. |
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Lizard
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
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it could be that the ebrake handle just isnt all the way down.
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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I've never bothered checking... but do these cars have a brake fluid level sensor? Could be low brake fluid, maybe?
If your brake fluid is OK (and/or if there's no sensor), I'd be betting on an electrical fault.
As a side note, when we fixed the handbrake in my car (which was bent six ways from Sunday!), we found that the little switch that triggers the park brake light had all but disintegrated! Before we replaced it, my park brake light used to flicker occasionally...
EDIT: Seems the warning lights on the dash may have changed between years..? On my gauge the lights are (top to bottom): Battery, Park Brake and Fuel light on the left and; Oil, Indicator and High Beam lights on the right.
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Stampedetrail
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: slightly scary moment on the way back from band practice |
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| seanski44 wrote: | OK, so earlier today I could have sworn I saw the 'brake' light (underneath the 'parking brake' light) come on, but was so brief I assumed it was a mistake.
anyway, I was on my way back from band practice tonight, and it came on and went off a few times - around about the time I showed a corrado that it didn't have the metal.
what's that mean then? - another electrical gremlin, or does it come on for a reason? no other lights came on, oil pressure wasn't too bad, volts were OK, water temp OK also.... |
Have you checked your brake fluid level? Might be a good idea. When the brake light comes on it means one of two things-- either one of the two brake hydraulic systems has failed somewhere, or the light circuit is bad. The first problem must be eliminated before the second for safety.
If one of the two fluid reserviors is dry, find out why. Repair the damage, install new brake pads, bleed the brakes with a trusted friend. While you are at it you could repack the wheel bearings; cheers!
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seanski44
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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thanks all,
for those who mentioned the handbrake, it wasn't the 'park brake' light, which comes on when the handbrake comes on (I pulled the handbrake to confirm this) but the 'brake' light (centre console, to the right under the 'park brake' light) - and it was more of a flickering.
Will check brake reservoirs in the rain this morning
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seanski44
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: slightly scary moment on the way back from band practice |
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| Stampedetrail wrote: | | seanski44 wrote: | OK, so earlier today I could have sworn I saw the 'brake' light (underneath the 'parking brake' light) come on, but was so brief I assumed it was a mistake.
anyway, I was on my way back from band practice tonight, and it came on and went off a few times - around about the time I showed a corrado that it didn't have the metal.
what's that mean then? - another electrical gremlin, or does it come on for a reason? no other lights came on, oil pressure wasn't too bad, volts were OK, water temp OK also.... |
Have you checked your brake fluid level? Might be a good idea. When the brake light comes on it means one of two things-- either one of the two brake hydraulic systems has failed somewhere, or the light circuit is bad. The first problem must be eliminated before the second for safety.
If one of the two fluid reserviors is dry, find out why. Repair the damage, install new brake pads, bleed the brakes with a trusted friend. While you are at it you could repack the wheel bearings; cheers! |
HI, cheers - have checked the brake fluid and it looks OK, between Max and Min as it has been - though you mention two fluid reservoirs - where's the other? - the one I checked was top right when opening the bonnet (Hood?)
btw on the way into work, the light flashed on and off in time with my gear changes, suggesting to me a loose wire / electrical fault... Its been mighty damp here of late!
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WhoDak
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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It could be that your P.O. replaced the two light cluster with one from an earlier car that has the Brake light on the bottom...where some newer 924's(mine included) had an Oil warning light on the bottom  . So when my "brake" warning light came on after the car warmed up...but never when it was cold, it was telling me the oil pressure was low  .
Edit: Oh and also that the PO left that cluster unplugged so either he wouldn't have to look at it daily...or I wouldn't see it test driving.
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: |
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maby it was the oil light that came on after you pushed the car a bit.
Whats the story with that Corrado ? whare were you driving ? and what kind of corrado was that?
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seanski44
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | maby it was the oil light that came on after you pushed the car a bit.
Whats the story with that Corrado ? whare were you driving ? and what kind of corrado was that? |
nah, was definitely the 'brake' light - as the problem repeated today.
As for the corrado - simple one really, I came through some lights that changed just before I got there, I was in third doing about 20mph, and he was just ahead - when he saw me draw level he floored it - I thought about changing down, but stuck in third, kept the foot down and he remained just behind me - we both gave up at 70, but it was fairly even, though I think I'd have beat him truly if I'd dropped a cog! (dual carriageway etc)
btw, had some info on my power loss and the thoughts are on the fuel being all over the place, apart from compression checking the car i'll hopefully be checking for vacuum and intake leaks as well as looking at the distributor advances. (when I get the time!)
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Stampedetrail
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | HI, cheers - have checked the brake fluid and it looks OK, between Max and Min as it has been - though you mention two fluid reservoirs - where's the other? - the one I checked was top right when opening the bonnet (Hood?)
btw on the way into work, the light flashed on and off in time with my gear changes, suggesting to me a loose wire / electrical fault... Its been mighty damp here of late! |
I just meant for the two brake circuits-- the reserviors are located in the same place. Even if one circuit fails, you still have brakes on opposite wheels. Each circuit goes to a front & rear wheel. The electrical connectors for the brake warning light & rear brake light are attached to the reservior. They pull off straight down on mine, but some have the warning lights attached to the caps. I'd check the wiring there, and you could check the switch activation functionality with a volt-meter or ohm-meter and a trusted friend. Could be that some mechanical part possibly a clutch cable is rubbing against a wire, which might explain the light coming on during shifting.
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Eturbo924
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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This one time at band camp. haha Sorry obscure reference to American Pie the movie.
I would have thought brake fluid level also.
Maybe you have some air in your system. Try bleeding the brakes.
At that time you can also inspect all the brakes.
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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were you driving the NA or the Turbo ?
good luck with the brakes.
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seanski44
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:39 am Post subject: |
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driving the turbo would be quite a feat at the moment! 
sorry, kind of private joke with myself - as there is no way the turbo would move under its own steam - actually, scratch that, I could get it up to a couple of miles per hour on the starter motor maybe...!
the NA, which, I am now, sadly going to sell. I can only assume that the brake light prob is an electrical gremlin as its gone away, mind you, so have all my volts and amps... (see latest thread!)
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