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seanski44
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 Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: Dynos - 924/44 |
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just been to the dyno with my n/a :http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19167
but the 'general discussion' is that I wanted to share that I saw a 400BHP 951!
Here's the full results from the titanic BHP table...
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http://www.cannell3.co.uk/944%20UK%20League.htm[/url]
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Here in Estonia we have 5 951,s and 3 of them passed the 400hp mark on the dyno. On 951 it's achievable quite easily. Try that on 924 or 931 
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Khal
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Raceboy wrote: | | Here in Estonia we have 5 951,s and 3 of them passed the 400hp mark on the dyno. On 951 it's achievable quite easily. |
Oh lah dee dah... aren't you special..? 
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seanski44
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Raceboy wrote: | | Here in Estonia we have 5 951,s and 3 of them passed the 400hp mark on the dyno. On 951 it's achievable quite easily. Try that on 924 or 931 |
not on THIS dyno!
one of the cars was clocked at 445 on a different dyno, which shows how wildly inaccurate some dynos are.... (the weltmeister dyno is the dogs bits - and its australian I believe!)
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Actually it's Bosch dyno, and it's one of the most accurate ones too 
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: |
Oh lah dee dah... aren't you special..? |
What do you mean?
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'78 924 Carrera GT replica
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'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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sequential
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| seanski44 wrote: | | Raceboy wrote: | | Here in Estonia we have 5 951,s and 3 of them passed the 400hp mark on the dyno. On 951 it's achievable quite easily. Try that on 924 or 931 |
not on THIS dyno!
one of the cars was clocked at 445 on a different dyno, which shows how wildly inaccurate some dynos are.... (the weltmeister dyno is the dogs bits - and its australian I believe!) |
The dog Bits means GOOD right !
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sequential
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Just curious , how are you guys determining which dyno is most accurate !
I mean i have heard this thrown around all the time not just here, with no cause or justification as to how they have determind this.......
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sequential, in Finland, just 80kms over the Finnish Gulf there's engine dyno at R-Koneistos and that is one of the most accurate ways to measure output. One of the guys took his engine to the engine dyno and then to the rollers, difference was somewhere 3-4hp and I consider that quite accurate for chassis dyno.
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'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
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'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
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Khal
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Raceboy wrote: | | Khal wrote: |
Oh lah dee dah... aren't you special..? |
What do you mean? |
Just being sarcastic, mate 
Seems everytime someone says something about modifications or cars with a lot of power, you're the first one to tell us how it's no big deal and so easy and you've seen it all before... my natural pessimism takes over!
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seanski44
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| sequential wrote: | | seanski44 wrote: | | Raceboy wrote: | | Here in Estonia we have 5 951,s and 3 of them passed the 400hp mark on the dyno. On 951 it's achievable quite easily. Try that on 924 or 931 |
not on THIS dyno!
one of the cars was clocked at 445 on a different dyno, which shows how wildly inaccurate some dynos are.... (the weltmeister dyno is the dogs bits - and its australian I believe!) |
The dog Bits means GOOD right ! |
Oh yeah, probably an Englishism - if something's good its the Dog's B()llocks - Not sure the origin of the phrase, but sometimes its de-rudened to 'the dog's danglies' or 'dogs bits'.
As for how its determined, I kind of left that to the Titanic guys, according to them (many tuners/home enthusiasts and indy specialists) its the most accurate in the country, as well as the one that is able to handle the most power in the country. I know we're in the backwater that is the UK, but apparently there are only two of these in the world.....
http://www.weltmeister.co.uk/services_dyno-dynamics_rolling-road-facility.htm
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Khal, I'm only telling what I've seen. 400 (even 300) on 931 is something special, but not so on the 951 (though it is good for 2 valve car).
And I've seen quite a lot in my life in 15 years that I spent for cars being a diy-er and car magazine journalist.
I hope to bring a nice dyno-sheet to you guys from my friends 3.0 951 with VEMS that I installed. We get it to the dyno in a couple of weeks I suppose.
My everlasting 931 project should be running in a month.
| Khal wrote: | | Raceboy wrote: | | Khal wrote: |
Oh lah dee dah... aren't you special..? |
What do you mean? |
Just being sarcastic, mate
Seems everytime someone says something about modifications or cars with a lot of power, you're the first one to tell us how it's no big deal and so easy and you've seen it all before... my natural pessimism takes over! |
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'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
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'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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seanski44
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Raceboy wrote: | Khal, I'm only telling what I've seen. 400 (even 300) on 931 is something special, but not so on the 951 (though it is good for 2 valve car).
And I've seen quite a lot in my life in 15 years that I spent for cars being a diy-er and car magazine journalist.
I hope to bring a nice dyno-sheet to you guys from my friends 3.0 951 with VEMS that I installed. We get it to the dyno in a couple of weeks I suppose.
My everlasting 931 project should be running in a month.
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ah, but that's a 3.0l 951...  - 400 from a 2.5 is special!
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1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
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Raceboy
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| seanski44 wrote: | | Raceboy wrote: | Khal, I'm only telling what I've seen. 400 (even 300) on 931 is something special, but not so on the 951 (though it is good for 2 valve car).
And I've seen quite a lot in my life in 15 years that I spent for cars being a diy-er and car magazine journalist.
I hope to bring a nice dyno-sheet to you guys from my friends 3.0 951 with VEMS that I installed. We get it to the dyno in a couple of weeks I suppose.
My everlasting 931 project should be running in a month.
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ah, but that's a 3.0l 951... - 400 from a 2.5 is special! |
That car showed 422 hp when it was 2,5 and my other friends Markus' 2,5 showed 402 hp. 951 Turbo Cabriolet is 2,5 too and with K27/8 it put 410 hp on the rollers.
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'83 924 2.6 16v Turbo, 470hp
'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
'84 928 S, sold
'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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seanski44
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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sorry, just because there are a couple of them around doesn't stop it from being special. Well, not in my eyes!
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1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
1992 968 lux SOLD
1989 944 2.7 lux SOLD |
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